Reel/Line combo for Jig/Worm rod

[Puggz]

Mounting on a Dobyn's extreme 743C. I have a 22 Metanium Shallow Edition selected and I'm wondering about line.

 

What I would like to use is a 15# hi vis braid that I can also spool onto my wacky rig setup (spinning) as well.

 

Thoughts? Recommendations?

 

TIA,

 

P

[newapti5]

15lb on baitcaster might be OK for weightless worms, but is a bit light for jigs IMO, unless you only use micro jigs. Besides the dig-in problem, with some usage and abrasion on the line, one backlash in midair could break it.  For my jig/worm setup, 20lb braid or 12lb fluoro is minimum. 

[Jar11591]

I use a 7’-7’3” MH-F rod with 40lb braid to a 25lb fluorocarbon leader for jiggin and wormin. 

[Puggz]

Not sure what I was thinking, yes to the 20+.

thanks!

[newapti5]

6 minutes ago, Puggz said:

Not sure what I was thinking, yes to the 20+.

thanks!

 

NP, with so many factors to consider, I got sidetracked sometimes as well. 

[Bird]

I throw mainly 3/8 swim jigs using a Dobyns Fury 703C.

Straight 20# PP braid for years without issue.

[JediAmoeba]

46 minutes ago, newapti5 said:

15lb on baitcaster might be OK for weightless worms, but is a bit light for jigs IMO, unless you only use micro jigs. Besides the dig-in problem, with some usage and abrasion on the line, one backlash in midair could break it.  For my jig/worm setup, 20lb braid or 12lb fluoro is minimum. 

15lbs is light? I mainly run 40lb braid to a 15lb leader on all my jigs up to 1 ounce

[FishTank]

The 15lb braid with leader for the spinning reel but I wouldn't use it on the Metanium.  I would go with 12 or 15lb Invizx.  Another would be 14lb Sunline Invisible. 

[LrgmouthShad]

So because you have a shallow spool reel that you want to use, in my opinion you pigeon-holed yourself into using braid main line for this setup. Seems like you’re okay with that, so no problem. I’d go 30-40lb main line and if you want a leader, I’d go somewhere around 15-18lb. 

1 minute ago, FishTank said:

I would go with 12 or 15lb Invizx

I looked up the specs on his reel. It holds 70yds of 10lb test. Now imagine something like 15lb test. 12lb is light for jigs in my opinion. Could probably still get away with it, but I would not be comfortable

[FishTank]

22 minutes ago, LrgmouthShad said:

So because you have a shallow spool reel that you want to use, in my opinion you pigeon-holed yourself into using braid main line for this setup. Seems like you’re okay with that, so no problem. I’d go 30-40lb main line and if you want a leader, I’d go somewhere around 15-18lb. 

I looked up the specs on his reel. It holds 70yds of 10lb test. Now imagine something like 15lb test. 12lb is light for jigs in my opinion. Could probably still get away with it, but I would not be comfortable

From what I understand, it's designed for light weight lures from about 3/16-3/8oz. So you are looking at finnese jigs in the 1/4oz and under size with a trailer or a light Texas Rig like a 3in craw with an 1/8oz bullet weight.  

 

I throw 1/8oz finnese jigs on 5-8lb FC all the time. You just need to be careful how you fish. So far, knock on wood, I haven't had but a few break offs. 

 

This one was caught on 5lb FC in about 8ft of water around trees and stumps. If I had used braid, the line would have gotten cut into the stump I pulled her off of. The picture is not the best but it's what my buddy's camera took.

 

 

 

[LrgmouthShad]

19 minutes ago, FishTank said:

From what I understand, it's designed for light weight lures from about 3/16-3/8oz. So you are looking at finnese jigs in the 1/4oz and under size with a trailer or a light Texas Rig like a 3in craw with an 1/8oz bullet weight.  

 

I throw 1/8oz finnese jigs on 5-8lb FC all the time. You just need to be careful how you fish. So far, knock on wood, I haven't had but a few break offs. 

 

This one was caught on 5lb FC in about 8ft of water around trees and stumps. If I had used braid, the line would have gotten cut into the stump I pulled her off of. The picture is not the best but it's what my buddy's camera took.

 

 

 

I wasnt aware that reels had ratings nowadays. What is his rod? It’s a Dobyns 743 Extreme. That’s a medium heavy rated 1/4 to 3/4 oz. Not a light rod. Still think 5-8lb test is a good idea? 
 

OP, what kinda jigs are we talking here? Small finesse ones or your typical run-of-the-mill size?

[LrgmouthShad]

35 minutes ago, FishTank said:

stumps. If I had used braid, the line would have gotten cut into the stump I pulled her off of

Also, how the heck do you know that?

 

I ain’t trying to be hostile but I just don’t think anything other than braid is the right answer for OP. We’ll see what he says about his jigs

[Puggz]

16 minutes ago, LrgmouthShad said:

I wasnt aware that reels had ratings nowadays. What is his rod? It’s a Dobyns 743 Extreme. That’s a medium heavy rated 1/4 to 3/4 oz. Not a light rod. Still think 5-8lb test is a good idea? 
 

OP, what kinda jigs are we talking here? Small finesse ones or your typical run-of-the-mill size?

Run of the mill (1/4oz and up, typically 1/4 oz jig plus the plastic) for this setup (light pitching, jigs, worms, senkos, etc) , I use spinning for something smaller.  I believe the 70yds/10lb is for mono so I should me able to spool up the same in 30# PP braid.  I picked this reel because it works within a fairly wide range.

[FishTank]

20 minutes ago, LrgmouthShad said:

I wasnt aware that reels had ratings nowadays. What is his rod? It’s a Dobyns 743 Extreme. That’s a medium heavy rated 1/4 to 3/4 oz. Not a light rod. Still think 5-8lb test is a good idea? 
 

OP, what kinda jigs are we talking here? Small finesse ones or your typical run-of-the-mill size?

Not suggesting he use that light of line but my point was that the reel is made for lighter lines and more finnese fishing and that light lines can be fished successfully around structure. Line I was using is an extreme example.  He could use that reel for whatever he wants though. Just suggesting what I believe I would use.

 

10 minutes ago, LrgmouthShad said:

Also, how the heck do you know that?

 

I ain’t trying to be hostile but I just don’t think anything other than braid is the right answer for OP. We’ll see what he says about his jig

I have fished this lake for years and it is a mine field of trees and stumps. Braid will cut into wood easily,  speaking from experience.  I have braid on 4 rigs and fish it regularly but find FC best, followed by mono, for jigs and especially Texas rigged soft plastic. I use braid with leader on two spinning setups for Ned Rigs, light finnese stuff and wacky rigged senkos. I also have it on a BFS setup for the same lures. Then lastly on a flipping and pitching setup for heavy vegetation and some big topwater baits. 

[LrgmouthShad]

19 minutes ago, FishTank said:

Not suggesting he use that light of line but my point was that the reel is made for lighter lines and more finnese fishing and that light lines can be fished successfully around structure. Line I was using is an extreme example.  He could use that reel for whatever he wants though. Just suggesting what I believe I would use.

Roger

 

19 minutes ago, FishTank said:

I have fished this lake for years and it is a mine field of trees and stumps. Braid will cut into wood easily,  speaking from experience

Okay

23 minutes ago, Puggz said:

believe the 70yds/10lb is for mono so I should me able to spool up the same in 30# PP braid.  I picked this reel because it works within a fairly wide range.

Yeah it’s for mono. 30lb and a 15lb+ leader or no leader at all should work just fine for you

[Puggz]

Hey thanks again everyone! Love the passion on this site :).

 

I have a few partial spools of green 30#PP so I'll try that 1st (w/o a leader) and see how it goes. For additional finesse I'll use spinning.

Not sure i'd call the met a BFS reel, they've added the shallow spool to help it with lighter tackle but it will handle 1oz just as well (I have another). I'm not concerned about the limitation on the line because i've always used braid for this application as I like the way it flows. And for a casting reel, 70yds is more than enough.

 

Cheers!

P

[Cbump]

2 hours ago, LrgmouthShad said:

I looked up the specs on his reel. It holds 70yds of 10lb test.

I’d use 15lb fc on this setup and never look back. To me there’s no reason to cast jigs and Texas rigs 50 yards. 

[LrgmouthShad]

10 minutes ago, Cbump said:

I’d use 15lb fc on this setup and never look back. To me there’s no reason to cast jigs and Texas rigs 50 yards. 

You’re probably getting less than 50 on that spool. And why the heck does anybody want half or more of their spool gone on a cast? You lose so much of your inches per turn by that point. Having to retie frequently? That’s more of your spool gone. I just don’t think it’s a great idea. But shallow spools are popular nowadays so… whatever 

[WRB]

3 power Dobyns rod no reason to be using braid with a leader imo. 

I use 12# FC/.011D* no leader w/ SD Jam knot for my jig & t-rig w/ bullet weight, this line is stronger then your rods power.

Shallow spool does loose a high % of IPT.

Tom

* Seaguar Tatsu or Sunline Shooter.

 

[Cbump]

8 minutes ago, LrgmouthShad said:

You’re probably getting less than 50 on that spool. And why the heck does anybody want half or more of their spool gone on a cast? You lose so much of your inches per turn by that point. Having to retie frequently? That’s more of your spool gone. I just don’t think it’s a great idea. But shallow spools are popular nowadays so… whatever 

You ever had a bass pull 30 yards of drag out? No way. 
I pitch and target cast Texas rigs with Tat Elite p/f. Holds 40yds. No different. 

[LrgmouthShad]

Just now, Cbump said:

You ever had a bass pull 30 yards of drag out? No way. 
I pitch and target cast Texas rigs with Tat Elite p/f. Holds 40yds. No different. 

Not concerned about a bass pulling drag that far. Never said that. As already stated, I’m concerned about IPT and the influence that frequent retying could have on how much line is on my spool.