Spinning Reel Line Gap When Spooling

[1984isNOW]

I think the problem is the fact that it's 10# braid, I switched to 15# a year or 2 ago and found it to be much more manageable in general, but I had this entire spool of 10# Spiderwire Ultracast just sitting here and I needed to just use it.

 

When spooling the line on it leaves a gap at the bottom and top of the spool, I imagine this will have an impact as the line will continually unspool and respool each cast laying just different enough to not lay even and cause weird lips/ ledges to catch on.

 

No videos really address how spinning line lays and its awkward to search effectively, please let me know what you think. Thanks yall

[Mobasser]

Maybe you can add a washer to adjust your spool for good line lay.

[MN Fisher]

2 minutes ago, Mobasser said:

Maybe you can add a washer to adjust your spool for good line lay.

If it was 'top' or 'bottom' heavy, adding or removing shims will correct - but this is 'center bulge'.

 

Seems to be a thing with some braids depending on the reel. Putting 10# Berkley X-9 on a Lews Wally Marshall Signature 100 (crappie reel), and I had the same thing happen - doesn't seem to affect casting though.

[WRB]

4 hours ago, PUTitinYOURmouthFISH said:

I think the problem is the fact that it's 10# braid, I switched to 15# a year or 2 ago and found it to be much more manageable in general, but I had this entire spool of 10# Spiderwire Ultracast just sitting here and I needed to just use it.

 

When spooling the line on it leaves a gap at the bottom and top of the spool, I imagine this will have an impact as the line will continually unspool and respool each cast laying just different enough to not lay even and cause weird lips/ ledges to catch on.

 

No videos really address how spinning line lays and its awkward to search effectively, please let me know what you think. Thanks yall

What reel?

[Striper9]

Try adding a thin washer that was provided in the reel box. If it continues to happen add another one. My Shimano nasci does the same thing even after adding washers. I just deal with it

[Striper9]

Misread the post and saw there’s a gap at the top and bottom, thought you said just the bottom. You can try adding or removing a washer and see if that helps. If not just deal with it and don’t over spool the reel

[GetFishorDieTryin]

A gap at the bottom is bad, but a gap at the top is really bad.  Try to shim the spool and see if you cant get rid of that top gap.  Changing lines has never completely solved the problem for me, but if the previous line you had stacked even, just respool it with that.  Take the new 10# and spool it onto another reel.

[MN Fisher]

Just now, GetFishorDieTryin said:

A gap at the bottom is bad, but a gap at the top is really bad.  Try to shim the spool and see if you cant get rid of that top gap. 

Removing shims would help the top gap - adding shims would increase the top gap while removing the bottom gap cause you're 'lifting' the spool.

 

Basically what I think is happening is that the rotar is not traveling the full distance top-to-bottom

[JediAmoeba]

Get yourself a drill and thread the spool on a small bolt - tighten it down with a rubber washer on each side of the spool and using one hand on the drill and one guiding the line onto the spool - spool it up. This will create a good base and should be good.

[bulldog1935]

mever mentioned, How Much 10-lb braid.  

Maybe you need to back with mono or much heavier braid and use your working braid on top.  

[Eric 26]

Take the reel and braid to a reputable tackle shop and pay them to spool it up. Works every time for me even if I didn’t buy the braid from them. It cost me a few dollars and the braid will last me several seasons.

[1984isNOW]

@WRB it's the Pflueger Supreme xt

 

@GetFishorDieTryin it's a new reel first time putting line on

 

@MN Fisher I feel inclined to agree,but it very well may be too thin of a diameter than it's designed to lay evenly. - this is why I essentially gave up on 10# braid.

 

@JediAmoeba I'm trying to envision how this would look, I really like the idea - I'll YouTube and see what I can find for visual support.

 

@bulldog1935 I'm prettyvsure it was 160yd give or take, I took the whole new roll of line.

 

@Eric 26  All they would do is use the actual device that jedi described mickeymousing. I'm definitely gonna look into do that myself.

 

[MN Fisher]

3 minutes ago, PUTitinYOURmouthFISH said:

it's the Pflueger Supreme xt

Which size? My old finesse rig had a President-25 with 10# braid...always spooled up evenly.

 

The suggestion to put backing on it is a good one. Two benefits from that...

1: Less cost - you'll only use 1/2 a spool of braid at a time

2: Better line-lay - even a cheap mono backing will assist in the line lay... on my spinning reels I use 4# Zebco Cajun that I get 3000yd spools from Fleet Farm for $6.49.

[WRB]

I would put about 1/2 the spool depth using monofilament line as a filler and top off with the 10 lb braid.

Make sure the the mono filler going evenly. 

When spooling the reel mounted on your rod hold the line coming off the spool* between your index finger and thumb near to 1st large rod guide with light pressure so it fills evenly.

A simple blood knot works good to join the filler to the braid.

* use a mandrel like pencil and take the line off the bottom of the filler spool.

Tom

[Eric 26]

@PUTitinYOURmouthFISH more power to you I was just offering a suggestion ? 

[Striper9]

2 hours ago, PUTitinYOURmouthFISH said:

@WRB it's the Pflueger Supreme xt

 

@GetFishorDieTryin it's a new reel first time putting line on

 

@MN Fisher I feel inclined to agree,but it very well may be too thin of a diameter than it's designed to lay evenly. - this is why I essentially gave up on 10# braid.

 

@JediAmoeba I'm trying to envision how this would look, I really like the idea - I'll YouTube and see what I can find for visual support.

 

@bulldog1935 I'm prettyvsure it was 160yd give or take, I took the whole new roll of line.

 

@Eric 26  All they would do is use the actual device that jedi described mickeymousing. I'm definitely gonna look into do that myself.

 

I’ve had line lay issues with pflueger spinning reels 

[garroyo130]

can you post a pic of the line lay?

[GetFishorDieTryin]

On 4/29/2023 at 1:49 PM, MN Fisher said:

Removing shims would help the top gap - adding shims would increase the top gap while removing the bottom gap cause you're 'lifting' the spool.

 

Basically what I think is happening is that the rotar is not traveling the full distance top-to-bottom

Ideally it does.  Some of my Penns have been a nightmare to even get serviceable.  Just have to experiment and see what happens.

[padlin]

I noticed this on a couple of my reels, a Stradic 2500 and an older Capricorn 2500, 15 lb PP on one, 15 lb 832 on the other. On mine it’s more beveled on both ends, more pronounced right during spooling, not so much after some use which is what is shown here. As the line is centered and it doesn’t appear to effect my fishing I’m not going to worry about it.

 

Ya, I take crappy pictures.

 

[garroyo130]

spool line on tighter ... otherwise, non-issue. Go fish!

[1984isNOW]

Thanks for all the input yall, I'm likely to try a combination of the work arounds yall have suggested. I'll try to get a pic up today.

 

Interesting you've had this issue specifically with Pflueger @Striper9

 

Did I mention ins the 30 size?

[Bigassbass]

A long screw with a big flat washer pushed through the spool of braid, then screw it to the wall, line comes off counter clock wise.  Hold line between thumb and index finger snug wynd on line. Or you can use a real big heavy book, put line through the center, books acts as a weight and a brake, easy peasey, wind on line. 

[MN Fisher]

4 hours ago, Bigassbass said:

A long screw with a big flat washer pushed through the spool of braid, then screw it to the wall, line comes off counter clock wise.  Hold line between thumb and index finger snug wynd on line. Or you can use a real big heavy book, put line through the center, books acts as a weight and a brake, easy peasey, wind on line. 

I just took some scrap I had laying around and built my own spooling station. Big-ass spring clamp secures it to the edge of the work-bench.