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It took two tries, but it worked. 

 

Wingra dam down in Madison, happens every year.

 

I don't understand the "vertical" part...

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worked for me. Those fish gettin beat up on their landing. Score from the russians is 1.0.

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T bone and hoooooolllllllddd it……….

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I'm not sure but if the reference to vertical concerns holding a musky vertically instead of horizontally  but their ability to leap vertical obviously doesn't hurt them. But holding certain species vertically does. I have experienced a 30lb plus lake trout snap it's neck while hanging from a scale when it flexed or wiggled. It was immediate death. Larger esox species will suffer the same if hung vertically. Conversely straight vertical holds are accepted practice for bass. 

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10 hours ago, T-Billy said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CqOZB7ZM8GB/

 

Saw this below the vid @TnRiver46 posted. Must be pretty common with esox. I've caught a couple mid 30's muskie that had fresh wounds from gettingT-Boned like this.

Take a look at this pike my brother caught (about 30") on a Canadian lake:

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It inside to inside measurement on those jaw marks was over 7".

One comment on the Instagram post: Esox are "cannibalistic" from day one, not when they reach a certain size.  One of the best natural baits for pike is is pike belly (thankfully illegal most places) as discussed by Barry Reynolds in his book "Pike on The Fly: The Flyfishing Guide to Northerns, Tigers, and Muskies" which should be on the reading list for any serious esox angler, regardless of which methods they choose to pursue them.  The follow up book is also excellent.

I have found "pike colored" lures and flies to be very effective for esox, the week that picture above was taken, nothing worked better than green and yellow spoons the size of pike fry, moved fast through the shallows.  We caught hundreds of them that week.

I've also had a four-foot+ musky t-bone a 28" pike I had on the line on one of our local lakes - it was a hell of an exciting experience.  The big girl would not let go of that pike until a tried to net her.

4 hours ago, Dwight Hottle said:

I'm not sure but if the reference to vertical concerns holding a musky vertically instead of horizontally  but their ability to leap vertical obviously doesn't hurt them. But holding certain species vertically does. I have experienced a 30lb plus lake trout snap it's neck while hanging from a scale when it flexed or wiggled. It was immediate death. Larger esox species will suffer the same if hung vertically. Conversely straight vertical holds are accepted practice for bass. 

Nailed it, thanks!

I doubt that's what the "vertical" reference was about though, which is why I asked.

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Whales will jump clear out the ocean but die from the weight of their own organs if they get beached. Same concept for muskies jumping vertical vs being held still.

 

Funny you posted this, i should take a walk during my lunch hour and go see if they're jumping the dam right now. I'll walk across that creek to get to my truck after work. Its the one with the musky on the license plate ?.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Vilas15 said:

Whales will jump clear out the ocean but die from the weight of their own organs if they get beached. Same concept for muskies jumping vertical vs being held still.

Yup.

Completely different situations.

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Also if anyones curious the muskies are trying to swim up the creek from Lake Monona to spawn, but theres very little successful natural reproduction in the madison chain so it's a pointless exercise. I believe its due to the lack of proper bottom substrate. Everything is maintained by stocking, so the fish coming up the creek are not supposed to make the jump because both sides of the dam are already stocked. Lake Wingra (dam is flowing out of here) has the highest density of muskies in WI already and is known for small fish so it doesn't need any more in there. Theres no way for them to get back into the creek and to Monona if they make the jump.

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I was thinking can’t get vertical like woody harrelson 


Woody Harrelson Basketball GIF

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That's what I figured.

Who said that?  I've seen muskies clear the surface with their entire bodies, and not just two foot fish.

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I just always associated salmon with jumping a dam not a musky . They “porpoise “ where I fish around them, never seen one jump 

 

now paddlefish, gar, and carp, they jump all day and night 

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Couple mid 30's all chewed up.thumbnail-2022-12-01T161332_933.thumb.jpeg.dd94b55df9193dc5574f66db60956370.jpegthumbnail(78).thumb.jpeg.3997e1c486fdcce5ff675a23fbf3ab28.jpeg

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Bottom fish was caught in April, but the top fish was caught in November.

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I’ve heard of them getting beat up by a prop while hanging near the surface too.

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Dinosaur toothy creatures biting each other and not letting go, getting ran over by boats, causing injury while spawning, what do they feed these things???

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Anything that gets in their way...

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On 4/6/2023 at 10:06 PM, TnRiver46 said:

Dinosaur toothy creatures biting each other and not letting go, getting ran over by boats, causing injury while spawning, what do they feed these things???

The Esox is a savage beast

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