History of the Palomar knot.

[N.Y. Yankee]

In my last thread, I asked if the Palomar was around before braid super lines. I did a quick Google search and found something that read, in part, that the Palomar knot has been around since about the creation of nylon monofilament. A man, last name of Palomar, who was a Scout leader, developed it to pevent knots from pulling through. The man who, at the time, was the director for Dupont's fishing line division recommended it as the ONLY knot anyone should use for fishing line. I thought that was interesting.  I didn't know the knot was around that long.

[JediAmoeba]

It's such a simple knot it was probably used long before that, just didn't have a name.

[Choporoz]

1 hour ago, JediAmoeba said:

It's such a simple knot it was probably used long before that, just didn't have a name.

Likely.

 

Probably named by a dude who was taught to tie it by his friend, Omar.

[throttleplate]

Could have been thought up by cavemen its that easy to tie.

[optimator]

It’s my favorite knot. I use it and the Lefty Kreh knot 99% of the time. 

[Bird]

Never heard of braid when I started tying the Palomar.

I was using Stren back then and that's when cursing became popular, for me.

Thinking that Spiderwire was the 1st braid that hit the market. Idk

[dave]

I was at a Bass Pro Shops Classic seminar years ago.  I believe it was Bobby Murray (was he the second winner of the Bassmaster Classic?)  He said the Palomar knot was the only knot you'd ever need and that it was the preferred knot of pro anglers.  I asked him about the pro fisherman sponsored by Trilene and the Trilene knot.  He repeated, "it is the preferred knot by pro fisherman and the only knot you will ever need..."

[Catt]

 Braided Cotton, Dacron, Micron, Suture Material (Silk) were all around long before monofilament, Micro Dyneema®, Kevlar, & Spectra.

 

[Hulkster]

Roland Martin used to show it on his show in the late 80s and early 90s when braid was just starting to become popular (spiderwire) but Roland still used Berkley Trilene mono at the time. 

[Darth-Baiter]

wow.   i have never wondered about the origin story of a knot.  

 

 

[J Francho]

I've used that knot since the 80s, as a teen.

[BrianMDTX]

I really don’t like the Palomar knot. For some reason it gives me difficulty and I often get line under the gap of the hook eye. 

[WRB]

The knot was named after the fireman who lived in Palomar California after winning the Stren fishing line strongest knot contest during the Fred Hall Show in the early 70’s.

I learned to tie this knot back in 1955 called the Indian knot, it’s been around a long time,

Tom

[Mike L]

3 hours ago, BrianMDTX said:

I really don’t like the Palomar knot. For some reason it gives me difficulty and I often get line under the gap of the hook eye. 

Brain

If this is a continuous problem for you, when cinching just guide the knot to the eye with your index and thumb then tighten down. 
It happened a few times to grandson when he was alone but hasn’t happened since. 
Worth a try anyway 

 

 

 

Mike
 

[WRB]

The only problem tying a Palomar knot is twisting the loop when putting the lure or hook through before snugging up. The twisted loop cuts the line when clinched tight.

Tom

[Team9nine]

A quick historical search through the archives turned up:

 

Inventor: Chet Palomar

Location: Pomona, California

Date: 1971

 

DuPont, makers of Stren, tested and endorsed it, specially suited for nylon monofilament, but stated that it was equally effective for use with braid.

[WRB]

Remember I use my memory and sometimes the recall isn’t accurate as should be, thanks for the correction. 
It was the Fred Hall show.

Tom

[Team9nine]

3 minutes ago, WRB said:

Remember I use my memory and sometimes the recall isn’t accurate as should be, thanks for the correction. 
It was the Fred Hall show.

Tom

You were close enough  

 

He was a retired fireman (1963), and was very active with the Boy Scouts in the late 1930s-early 1940s. I have to rely on historical computer searches - you were there - that’s way cooler ? 

[WRB]

Thank you!

Won a few rod reel combos at the Fred Hall show tying that knot  but didn’t name it!

The Perfection Loop knot is another old knot that was called the Mexican knot I learned on a long range ocean trip on the Cabosco before it was renamed Red Rooster. I taught this knot to several friends over the years for live bait hooks for Tuna and Marlin.

Tom

[BrianMDTX]

13 hours ago, Mike L said:

Brain

If this is a continuous problem for you, when cinching just guide the knot to the eye with your index and thumb then tighten down. 
It happened a few times to grandson when he was alone but hasn’t happened since. 
Worth a try anyway 

 

 

 

Mike
 

It’s worth a try. Especially for dropshotting. It’s a strange thing that such an easy knot gives me fits. 

[J Francho]

One of the best drop shotters I know uses an improved cinch knot. Goes to show, you don't 100% have to use a Palomar. 

[Darth-Baiter]

The dropshot knot is my best knot for that technique. 

[king fisher]

The Palamar was first scene drawn as a hierographic, on a tomb, inside a pyramid, sometime around 2500 BC.  It was also drawn on the inside of a pyramid in Mexico around 100 AD.  Most likely brought to earth by space aliens who invented it millions of years ago.

      The proper pronunciation was probably argued by fisherman in Egypt, and other ancient civilizations, similar to the arguments of modern times.

[MN Fisher]

1 minute ago, king fisher said:

The Palamar was first scene drawn as a hierographic, on a tomb, inside a pyramid, sometime around 2500 BC.  It was also drawn on the inside of a pyramid in Mexico around 100 AD.  Most likely brought to earth by space aliens who invented it millions of years ago.

      The proper pronunciation was probably argued by fisherman in Egypt, and other ancient civilizations, similar to the arguments of modern times.

Why were you running around desecrating pyramids?

[king fisher]

2 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Why were you running around desecrating pyramids?

No desecrating involved.  Simply trying to learn how to correctly tie the Palomar. 

Egyptians used hooks with small eyes, and ran the line through the eye, then ran it back to form a loop.  Because of the larger bass they fished for.  The Mexicans used bigger hooks, and were able to double the line over passing the loop through the hook eye.