No electronics and why.

[Darth-Baiter]

my bassboat bud uses the map  only to not get lost on the CA-Delta.  if you are casting to cover, what is under you plays very little into the scenario IMHO.

 

i just look at my kayak speed and water temps mostly.  bums me out my temp is malfunctioning.  if it was winter and i was looking for bait balls and off shore school..yea maybe.  

[Bankbeater]

About the only time I use a fish finder is when I am fishing in a new pond or lake.  I've been fishing a lot of the same lakes for years so I know where the humps, creek channels, and drop offs are located.

[volzfan59]

I have two Garmin Striker 7" units on my boat. One at the T/M, the other is midship (my boat has a tiller O/B). They're basically really nice temp gauges for me. I rarely look at them.

[J Francho]

On 3/24/2023 at 1:40 PM, casts_by_fly said:

 

There would be a good prank for a tournament angler with a camera crew in the boat.  Put the unit on display/practice mode that comes from the manufacturer and let it roll!

I've literally done this to non boaters as a prank. The reactions are awesome. 

[MassBass]

I don't like sonar on big lakes because I feel bass don't react the same to rattlebaits.

[roadwarrior]

On 4/17/2023 at 4:05 PM, MassBass said:

I don't like sonar on big lakes because I feel bass don't react the same to rattlebaits.

 What?

 

 

 

                                                       

[WRB]

Bass are bass but are they?

The basic bass are Largemouth, Smallmouth and Spotted bass found nearly everywhere we bass fish.

Both Largemouth and Spotted bass have 2 deferent species; Florida LMB, Northern LMB and Northern (Kentucky) Spotted, Southern (Alabama) Spotted Bass. Smallmouth are Smallmouth everywhere.

Why add this to a sonar discussion? Behavior traits are different affecting location and catch ability. 

Smaller lakes or ponds bass are more shore located because their food source is located nearby. Really don’t need sonar to effectively cast to visual shore targets and the bass are usually in less then 8’ of water. Simple flasher works well to determine depth and helpful reading maps to pin point underwater isolated cover-structure.

Manmade impoundments or reservoirs are a different story.

Bass can be shore oriented or off shore located and depth becomes a critical factor. Yes, you can fish large deep reservoirs targeting the shoreline and obvious structure or cover elements without a sonar unit. Fishing blind on these lakes you mis a lot of bass that are over your shoulder or under your boat deeper then you are fishing.

NLMB, Smallmouth and Spotted bass are all very aggressive feeders and far easier to catch then FLMB that tend to be more selective seeking prey and less aggressive overall. When targeting less aggressive bass sonar helps a lot locating bass and prey so you can adjust your timing.

Scanning  and Livescope sonar is changing bass fishing as you see real time where the bass are located and their reaction to your lures. 

Do you need today’s real time sonar units? Not when fishing smaller lakes or ponds. If you fish competitive tournaments you shouldn’t fish blind if you want to earn a check.

Tom

[MassBass]

3 hours ago, roadwarrior said:

 What?

 

 

 

                                                       

Crazy? In my experience it is obvious that the bioacoustics of sonars and trolling motors negatively interferes with the positive, attractive bioacoustics of lipless crankbaits.

[roadwarrior]

21 minutes ago, MassBass said:

Crazy? In my experience it is obvious that the bioacoustics of sonars and trolling motors negatively interferes with the positive, attractive bioacoustics of lipless crankbaits.

 Yeah, I am surprised those BASS pros catch any bass...

[Tennessee Boy]

7 hours ago, MassBass said:

Crazy? In my experience it is obvious that the bioacoustics of sonars and trolling motors negatively interferes with the positive, attractive bioacoustics of lipless crankbaits.

The multidimensional integration of spectrography, sonar technology, and trolling motors leverages cutting-edge scientific advancements to optimize angling efficacy. By employing a lipless crankbait, a versatile fishing lure renowned for its acoustic resonance and vibrational qualities, an intricate interplay of psychoacoustic principles is initiated to induce heightened sensory perception and behavioral reactivity within targeted fish populations.

Spectrography, a sophisticated technique for sound analysis, enables the comprehensive assessment of acoustic spectrums emitted by the lipless crankbait during retrieval. This process facilitates the precise identification and quantification of frequency components, harmonics, and modulations embedded within the lure's emitted acoustic signatures. By examining these intricate acoustic patterns, one can discern specific psychoacoustic cues that resonate with piscine auditory systems, triggering heightened sensory reception and subsequent behavioral engagement.

Integrating sonar technology and trolling motors further empowers this fishing paradigm, enabling real-time monitoring and visualization of piscine habitats and their inhabitants. Sonar-based imaging systems provide intricate details of underwater topography, while trolling motors enable precise maneuverability and controlled lure presentation. This integrated approach facilitates the strategic placement and retrieval of the lipless crankbait within piscine hotspots, maximizing exposure to receptive auditory stimuli and augmenting the likelihood of eliciting heightened psychoacoustic responses.

By harnessing the fundamental principles of psychoacoustics, characterized by the intricate interplay between acoustic stimuli and cognitive perception, this comprehensive angling methodology revolutionizes the traditional fishing paradigm. The carefully calibrated integration of spectrography, sonar, trolling motors, and the lipless crankbait engenders an unparalleled fishing experience, inducing a state of heightened piscine sensory stimulation and behavioral responsiveness. Ultimately, this amalgamation of cutting-edge scientific techniques culminates in an exponential increase in angling success, redefining the boundaries of piscatorial pursuit.

 

So maybe you need to try a different lipless bait. 

 

 

[GaryH]

5 hours ago, roadwarrior said:

 What?

 

 

 

                                                       

I had to stop using spinner baits because they were making me dizzy and giving me motion sickness. I believe that’s why @TnRiver46 doesn’t use them. 

[WRB]

Try silent or Indian stroking your canoe for the ultimate pyschoacoustic approach.

Tom

[MassBass]

Maybe you that can't accept this are just too comfortable fishing off of, what is bioacoustically, a Navy destroyer. Don't want to know that there is a different approach, where rattles and vibrations hit the fish differently.  

[MassBass]

On 5/20/2023 at 2:53 PM, roadwarrior said:

 Yeah, I am surprised those BASS pros catch any bass...

Any pro worth his salt knows that the fish's lateral line, it's "sixth sense" can more than likely pick up on disturbances from sonar, and make it less aggressive. This article is from the other day:

https://www.bassmaster.com/news/forward-facing-sonar-and-wary-fish/

[Standard]

On 6/1/2023 at 6:45 PM, MassBass said:

Any pro worth his salt knows that the fish's lateral line, it's "sixth sense" can more than likely pick up on disturbances from sonar, and make it less aggressive. This article is from the other day:

https://www.bassmaster.com/news/forward-facing-sonar-and-wary-fish/

 

That article is nothing but an opinion article.  Fish seem more wary after being hammered on during a tournament?  What a surprise.  Could also be the factor that FFS is allowing them to find these 'wary' fish, and the simple fact of it is that those fish just aren't aggressive at the moment.

 

I've watched bass on livescope in 5 feet of water smash my jig while ice fishing, multiple times.  Didn't make them any less aggressive.  

[Kirtley Howe]

On 5/20/2023 at 3:11 PM, Tennessee Boy said:

The multidimensional integration of spectrography, sonar technology, and trolling motors leverages cutting-edge scientific advancements to optimize angling efficacy. By employing a lipless crankbait, a versatile fishing lure renowned for its acoustic resonance and vibrational qualities, an intricate interplay of psychoacoustic principles is initiated to induce heightened sensory perception and behavioral reactivity within targeted fish populations.

Spectrography, a sophisticated technique for sound analysis, enables the comprehensive assessment of acoustic spectrums emitted by the lipless crankbait during retrieval. This process facilitates the precise identification and quantification of frequency components, harmonics, and modulations embedded within the lure's emitted acoustic signatures. By examining these intricate acoustic patterns, one can discern specific psychoacoustic cues that resonate with piscine auditory systems, triggering heightened sensory reception and subsequent behavioral engagement.

Integrating sonar technology and trolling motors further empowers this fishing paradigm, enabling real-time monitoring and visualization of piscine habitats and their inhabitants. Sonar-based imaging systems provide intricate details of underwater topography, while trolling motors enable precise maneuverability and controlled lure presentation. This integrated approach facilitates the strategic placement and retrieval of the lipless crankbait within piscine hotspots, maximizing exposure to receptive auditory stimuli and augmenting the likelihood of eliciting heightened psychoacoustic responses.

By harnessing the fundamental principles of psychoacoustics, characterized by the intricate interplay between acoustic stimuli and cognitive perception, this comprehensive angling methodology revolutionizes the traditional fishing paradigm. The carefully calibrated integration of spectrography, sonar, trolling motors, and the lipless crankbait engenders an unparalleled fishing experience, inducing a state of heightened piscine sensory stimulation and behavioral responsiveness. Ultimately, this amalgamation of cutting-edge scientific techniques culminates in an exponential increase in angling success, redefining the boundaries of piscatorial pursuit.

 

So maybe you need to try a different lipless bait. 

 

 

If you can't baffle them with brilliance blind them with BS.  Just kidding....I love doing what you just did....It takes a certain skill to say something with 100 words that can be said in 10.  <G>

[river-rat]

On 3/24/2023 at 2:46 PM, Catt said:

 

I fish shallow water marshes (2-3'), I don't need a depth finder. 

 

This time of the year the grass is down making boat trails impossible to see, GPS is nice.

 

Same here in the Atchafalaya Basin. I don't need to use the front depth finder since I'm fishing in 4' of water or less all the time.