Super User GreenPig Posted March 22, 2023 Super User Posted March 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, Jonas Staggs said: Lol, I was thinking more like 35 lbs 29 oz ? 7# on 2# is impressive Thanks brotha Coulda been famous. 1
Cbump Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 You keep asking the same question and there’s no way to answer It. Way way way too many variables to why your line snapped. That’s like saying if a 10 lb bass broke your 10lb line with no drag then when mine is set correctly with 20lb line and It breaks It must have been a 30lb bass. Lol Something was weak in your line. Or you had a big catfish.
Jonas Staggs Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, ironbjorn said: You keep asking the same question in this thread and you keep getting the same answer. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 lb bass or whatever can and will break 10lb line with maxed out drag and any weakness in the line. Who freaking knows dude. Replace the reel. My question was what pound bass would snap 10# line with no drag. The answer to that question is a number. Rather than answering my question, many pointed to other possibilities, such as line guides, frayed line, knot failure. All those things are quite possible. We all know how important correctly set drag is and with no drag, the line could still snap if it wasn't frayed and had a strong knot. Thus I repeated my question to clarify what I was asking. I believe 2 or 3 people answered my question with a weight/number. I don't believe I repeated the question once it was answered with a weight/number Thanks for your input ? 28 minutes ago, Cbump said: You keep asking the same question and there’s no way to answer It. Way way way too many variables to why your line snapped. That’s like saying if a 10 lb bass broke your 10lb line with no drag then when mine is set correctly with 20lb line and It breaks It must have been a 30lb bass. Lol Something was weak in your line. Or you had a big catfish. 50 minutes ago, gulfcaptain said: Your line got shock loaded which then caused the break. Yeah you can pull hard in a straight steady pull but when it's shock loaded it causes it to break. Just like some I know that backlash straight 50lb braid on a 2oz bait and it sails off into the middle of nowhere. Doesn't take much to break it when its shock loaded. Love to give you some lovely story but there isn't one. It broke because it was shockloaded due to no drag on a broken reel. Thanks for your advice
Cbump Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 How can anyone answer that? Are we just playing little kid games? My number is 4lbs then. 1
Jonas Staggs Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 50 minutes ago, papajoe222 said: 3lb.-12oz. could do it. I only know that fact because it happen to me when I was netting said fish. Short line, rod bent to the max and drag adjusted too tight. you’ll never know for sure, so just call it a seven pounder. Before long you’ll be doing so without thinking about it. Yup it was upsetting because it's the biggest bass I have seen there. Most fish are 1-2, my Best there is 3.4, 3+ pounds is big for there. There's been a few 6 pounders that have been caught there. That being said it was the biggest bass I have seen there. So just wondering if I might have hooked into a 6 pound unicorn, or a common 2 pounder. This thread didn't really go as planned. Lol. Thanks for your input. 4 minutes ago, Cbump said: How can anyone answer that? Are we just playing little kid games? My number is 4lbs then. Not sure where all the hostility is coming from. No need for insults with your little kid games comment. Have a good one bro!
Cbump Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 No hostility here and if that’s insulting to you then it’s time to toughen up. I’m just saying logically it’s an impossible question to answer bro. literally something as simple as 5’ of line out vs 10’ of line out changes the answer.
Super User geo g Posted March 22, 2023 Super User Posted March 22, 2023 I would think the line was probably nicked on something and a weak point was made. This has happen to me many times with smaller size bass. It’s not the bass it’s an exquipment failure.
Jonas Staggs Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Cbump said: No hostility here and if that’s insulting to you then it’s time to toughen up. I’m just saying logically it’s an impossible question to answer bro. literally something as simple as 5’ of line out vs 10’ of line out changes the answer. I just found your comment rude. If we were having a face to face conversation, I doubt you would speak to me in the same manner or have made that comment. People tend to speak others differently over the Internet. I'm a very polite and respectful person and I expect the same from others. Because of this, I can get angry easily at the slightest form of disrespect. As far as toughening up, I'm not the toughest guy in the world, but I am a retired Muay Thai fighter who was once ranked 14th in the world for my weight class by the IKF. Back to fishing, I was unaware of the difference in regards to how much line is out having a affect on it. So you have taught me something new. Thank you. 1
softwateronly Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 The number is 3.14159265358979 lbs. or not, sorry you lost a good one to faulty equipment. The bright side is that operator error wasn't the culprit because that sting lasts like no other. scott
Cbump Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 If I was at the boat ramp after weigh in at my club tourney shooting the bull having this same exact conversation I 100% guarantee you I would say the exact same thing. Jesus Christ. Go get a new freaking reel. 6 minutes ago, Jonas Staggs said: Back to fishing, I was unaware of the difference in regards to how much line is out having a affect on it. So you have taught me something new. Yes back to fishing. If a small fish hits your lure right at the bank It could dang near yank the pole out of your hand (or snap the line). If the same fish hits your lure 20’ out, it’ll just be a regular bite.
Jonas Staggs Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, Cbump said: If I was at the boat ramp after weigh in at my club tourney shooting the bull having this same exact conversation I 100% guarantee you I would say the exact same thing. Jesus Christ. Go get a new freaking reel. Yes back to fishing. If a small fish hits your lure right at the bank It could dang near yank the pole out of your hand (or snap the line). If the same fish hits your lure 20’ out, it’ll just be a regular bite. That makes sense. The fish was very close. Praise be to Allah Ill get a new mofo reel! 36 minutes ago, geo g said: I would think the line was probably nicked on something and a weak point was made. This has happen to me many times with smaller size bass. It’s not the bass it’s an exquipment failure. Thanks
Jonas Staggs Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Cbump said: You keep asking the same question and there’s no way to answer It. Way way way too many variables to why your line snapped. That’s like saying if a 10 lb bass broke your 10lb line with no drag then when mine is set correctly with 20lb line and It breaks It must have been a 30lb bass. Lol Something was weak in your line. Or you had a big catfish. That was not my logic, it's yours. I never said the bass was 10 lbs and I'm well aware of the fact that 10 test line means it can hold 10 pounds of pressure, not a 10 pound fish. It was not a catfish. I saw the fish and it was a bass. It doesn't sound like you read my post thoroughly
Cbump Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 Did you really just requote me? You’re thinking about this way too much. Anywhere in my post do you see that I said 10lb test means 10lb fish? That was simply a number I threw out. I could have said 5 and 15 or 7 and 20. The point was that it’s impossible to say.
Jonas Staggs Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 Just now, Cbump said: Did you really just requote me? You’re thinking about this way too much. Anywhere in my post do you see that I said 10lb test means 10lb fish? That was simply a number I threw out. I could have said 5 and 15 or 7 and 20. The point was that it’s impossible to say. Indeed
Cbump Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 I read your post. I’ve also been around a lot of people that think a stick is a bite or guess the fish they just caught was a 5 when it’s a 3 or think they have a world record bass and it’s a drum (all of which have happened to me). You instantly and briefly saw a fish flash before It broke your line. We just have to take your word that It was a bass. Possibly was a monster catfish.
Jonas Staggs Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, Cbump said: I read your post. I’ve also been around a lot of people that think a stick is a bite or guess the fish they just caught was a 5 when it’s a 3 or think they have a world record bass and it’s a drum (all of which have happened to me). You instantly and briefly saw a fish flash before It broke your line. We just have to take your word that It was a bass. Possibly was a monster catfish. Possibly, I'm confident it was a bass though. The biggest bass I have ever seen there. It was actually in the same spot I caught my 3.4 last year. A tunnel. That being said yes people always over estimate the size. I see a lot of people calling 1-2 bass like 4-5 lbs regularly. I was originally thinking someone would know something like, a 2 lbs bass is capable of creating x amount of pressure so I could sort of try and guestimate the size. I now know that's not possible there's too many variables
Super User gulfcaptain Posted March 22, 2023 Super User Posted March 22, 2023 Okay you want a number 3....3oz is my number due to the other factors that caused the line break
Jonas Staggs Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, gulfcaptain said: Okay you want a number 3....3oz is my number due to the other factors that caused the line break How can you be so sure of that? I find it hard to believe that having no drag had nothing to do with it
Super User NorcalBassin Posted March 22, 2023 Super User Posted March 22, 2023 I've landed 20+ pound cats and 30+ pound carp that went under multiple docks and even rubbed on pilings with 6-7# Sniper fluoro. Key is having the drag adjusted to not overstress the line. 1
Super User Hammer 4 Posted March 22, 2023 Super User Posted March 22, 2023 50 minutes ago, Jonas Staggs said: Possibly, I'm confident it was a bass though. The biggest bass I have ever seen there. It was actually in the same spot I caught my 3.4 last year. A tunnel. That being said yes people always over estimate the size. I see a lot of people calling 1-2 bass like 4-5 lbs regularly. I was originally thinking someone would know something like, a 2 lbs bass is capable of creating x amount of pressure so I could sort of try and guestimate the size. I now know that's not possible there's too many variables Ya know, with light reflections, and certain clarity conditions, and if there's any vegetation, colors and even shape can be very tricky to pin down. So I'm gonna go out on limb here, and suggest that maybe it wasn't a bass but possibly a big cat, or maybe a carp. There is that possibility. No?
Jonas Staggs Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hammer 4 said: Ya know, with light reflections, and certain clarity conditions, and if there's any vegetation, colors and even shape can be very tricky to pin down. So I'm gonna go out on limb here, and suggest that maybe it wasn't a bass but possibly a big cat, or maybe a carp. There is that possibility. No? That possiblity is there, but I got the fish in about 1 ft of water, about 1 foot from the Bank. I saw it, I'm confident it was a bass. I have caught plenty of carp and catfish. 1
Super User Hammer 4 Posted March 22, 2023 Super User Posted March 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jonas Staggs said: That possiblity is there, but I got the fish in about 1 ft of water, about 1 foot from the Bank. I saw it, I'm confident it was a bass. I have caught plenty of carp and catfish. Then I have to believe it was in fact a bass.
Jonas Staggs Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 46 minutes ago, NorcalBassin said: I've landed 20+ pound cats and 30+ pound carp that went under multiple docks and even rubbed on pilings with 6-7# Sniper fluoro. Key is having the drag adjusted to not overstress the line. Drag you say huh? What's that? You think you could have caught those fish with the drag cinched down as tight as possible? If you did have the drag set as tight as possible, do you think the line would snap? If yes why? Because of the drag? Or because of a poor knot, frayed line, scratched line guides, and a different species of fish? I have caught fish that weigh more than the pound test line I was fishing, because my drag was set correctly. Today that wasn't the case because my drag was broken.
Super User NorcalBassin Posted March 22, 2023 Super User Posted March 22, 2023 Definitely feel as though I'd lost them if drag was tightened down all the way. Letting giants run with a finesse hook, smooth drag and 6-7# line gave me the chance to successfully land those fish. Same goes for my 9lb+ LMB PB I caught on the same setup. Inconsistent or locked down/broken drag would have very likely been lost fish. ?
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