Jonas Staggs Posted March 21, 2023 Posted March 21, 2023 Went fishing today, with a spin rod setup with 10# test. My reel is cheap and messed up, the drag loosens by itself. So I cranked it all the way down. I figured no biggy as majority of fish in the local pond are about 2 pounds. Well of course I hooked into something big, that instantly broke off. I saw it briefly and could tell it was a bass. My question is, what do you think the minimum weight of a bass would be to snap 10# test like that? There's a few 6 pounders at the lake that have been caught, but generally speaking, anything 3+ pounds is big for the spot
Super User Hammer 4 Posted March 21, 2023 Super User Posted March 21, 2023 I've caught 7 lb+ bass on 6lb mono, so I don't think it was the test of your line, something else failed, i.e. frayed line, ect. If I were you, I'd think about replacing that reel. 4
Super User MN Fisher Posted March 21, 2023 Super User Posted March 21, 2023 ^ What Hammer said - I've pulled in 12# northern pike on 8# test. could be something on the rod too...nicked guide would do it. Locking down the drag is not something recommended...ever. 3
Jonas Staggs Posted March 21, 2023 Author Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Hammer 4 said: I've caught 7 lb+ bass on 6lb mono, so I don't think it was the test of your line, something else failed, i.e. frayed line, ect. If I were you, I'd think about replacing that reel. I bet your drag was set correctly to do that. I caught a 25# carp on 8 pound test, and a 15# carp on 6 pound, my PB bass is 3.4 on 4# test UL. because my drag was set correctly. The problem today was I had no drag at all because it was cinched all the way down. I think you guys may have missed the point, the reel broke, the only way to continue fishing was to tighten the drag as tight as possible. Which shouldn't have been a issue, fishing 10# test for 1-2 pound fish
Super User Hammer 4 Posted March 21, 2023 Super User Posted March 21, 2023 Then replace the reel..? 1
Jonas Staggs Posted March 21, 2023 Author Posted March 21, 2023 Just now, Hammer 4 said: Then replace the reel..? On the to do list! Any guess on the size of a bass to easily snap 10# with no drag?
Super User Hammer 4 Posted March 21, 2023 Super User Posted March 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jonas Staggs said: On the to do list! Any guess on the size of a bass to easily snap 10# with no drag? Not really. Never lock my drags down. 1
Super User BrianMDTX Posted March 21, 2023 Super User Posted March 21, 2023 I’d replace the reel and then go catch and weigh it. 1
Jonas Staggs Posted March 21, 2023 Author Posted March 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, BrianMDTX said: I’d replace the reel and then go catch and weigh it. Lol I tried. I eventually went back to my car and got my heavy rod. Caught a few on the savage gear gill today which is a first for that bait. But nothing big. I pulled this fish out of that grate behind it which I thought was super cool. The grate is typically bone dry, above the lake, the rain today flooded so much that the fish was able to leave the lake and swim up a small path and hide behind that grate in about 1 ft of water. I really enjoy fishing in the rain. It's very fun to cast into all the flooded areas. This is a hoa pond, so it's got a curb edge like a pool or what not. Everything was flooded over the edge by like 3ft!
Super User Bird Posted March 21, 2023 Super User Posted March 21, 2023 A digging fish in the water puts more pressure on the line then it's actual weight. A 5lb bass can snap 10lb line when you take the drag out of the equation. I'd also check the top guide of your rod for any nicks and cuts. 1
Jonas Staggs Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Bird said: A digging fish in the water puts more pressure on the line then it's actual weight. A 5lb bass can snap 10lb line when you take the drag out of the equation. I'd also check the top guide of your rod for any nicks and cuts. That's exactly what I was looking for. What do you guys think the minimum weight would be to snap 10# test like that....a 3, 4, 5 lbs bass? I suppose the answer is 5 lbs then. Frayed line and knot failure crossed my mind, but a decent fish with no drag could as well. The only thing I can confirm was that I had no drag as I hadn't checked my line for frays. I briefly saw the fish, it was one of the biggest I have ever seen at the lake, how big I don't know. That's what prompted me to ask this question. Thanks for your input ? 1
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted March 22, 2023 Super User Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Jonas Staggs said: I bet your drag was set correctly to do that. I caught a 25# carp on 8 pound test, and a 15# carp on 6 pound, my PB bass is 3.4 on 4# test UL. because my drag was set correctly. The problem today was I had no drag at all because it was cinched all the way down. I think you guys may have missed the point, the reel broke, the only way to continue fishing was to tighten the drag as tight as possible. Which shouldn't have been a issue, fishing 10# test for 1-2 pound fish Great pic. You fishing in scrubs?! You are blessed to have laid eyes on the fish. I lost a fish on 8lb line and I never got a peek. It still haunts me and I speculate like a fool. 1
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted March 22, 2023 Global Moderator Posted March 22, 2023 A 2-3 pound bass could easily break 10lb test if there's a weak spot, poorly tied or old (weakened), knot. 1 1
Jonas Staggs Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said: Great pic. You fishing in scrubs?! You are blessed to have laid eyes on the fish. I lost a fish on 8lb line and I never got a peek. It still haunts me and I speculate like a fool. Yes I am lol. It works out perfectly. I work nights, off in the morning and get to fish just about everyday for an hour or so on the way home from work. This was another grate fish in like 1 ft of water 5 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said: A 2-3 pound bass could easily break 10lb test if there's a weak spot, poorly tied or old (weakened), knot. Yup that's what I'm wondering, biggest at the lake is 6 so it couldn't be bigger than that. I caught this catfish on the same setup with a bass jig last week but my drag wasn't broken then. No scale so I don't know the weight but good size. 1
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted March 22, 2023 Global Moderator Posted March 22, 2023 10 lb what? A bluegill could snap 10 lb braid 1
Ktho Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 If it instantly broke then more than likely there was a defect somewhere in the line, almost assuredly so if you're fishing mono. 1
Jonas Staggs Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: 10 lb what? A bluegill could snap 10 lb braid 10# braid to a 10# to copolymer leader
Ktho Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Jonas Staggs said: 10# braid to a 10# to copolymer leader Which section broke and where? 1
Jonas Staggs Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Ktho said: Which section broke and where? It broke at the leader, I like to run long leaders, typically double my rod length, I probably had about 4 ft of leader left. Quite possible knot failure or frayed line but that is something I can't confirm because I didn't check, I did already catch a few fish. The only thing I am certain about is I had no drag I usually use uni knot for the lure, double uni for connection knot on my spin setups and fg knot for my baitcasters
Super User WRB Posted March 22, 2023 Super User Posted March 22, 2023 You will never know! All you can do is be prepared the next outing. Tom 5
Super User GreenPig Posted March 22, 2023 Super User Posted March 22, 2023 I caught a 7 lb 2 oz LM on 2 lb mono so definitely at least 35 lb 10 oz.? 1 2
Jonas Staggs Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, GreenPig said: I caught a 7 lb 2 oz LM on 2 lb mono so definitely at least 35 lb 10 oz.? Lol, I was thinking more like 35 lbs 29 oz ? 7# on 2# is impressive 13 minutes ago, WRB said: You will never know! All you can do is be prepared the next outing. Tom Thanks brotha 1
ironbjorn Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 You keep asking the same question in this thread and you keep getting the same answer. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 lb bass or whatever can and will break 10lb line with maxed out drag and any weakness in the line. Who freaking knows dude. Replace the reel. 1
Super User gulfcaptain Posted March 22, 2023 Super User Posted March 22, 2023 Your line got shock loaded which then caused the break. Yeah you can pull hard in a straight steady pull but when it's shock loaded it causes it to break. Just like some I know that backlash straight 50lb braid on a 2oz bait and it sails off into the middle of nowhere. Doesn't take much to break it when its shock loaded. Love to give you some lovely story but there isn't one. It broke because it was shockloaded due to no drag on a broken reel. 1
papajoe222 Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Jonas Staggs said: That's exactly what I was looking for. What do you guys think the minimum weight would be to snap 10# test like that....a 3, 4, 5 lbs bass? I suppose the answer is 5 lbs then. Frayed line and knot failure crossed my mind, but a decent fish with no drag could as well. The only thing I can confirm was that I had no drag as I hadn't checked my line for frays. I briefly saw the fish, it was one of the biggest I have ever seen at the lake, how big I don't know. That's what prompted me to ask this question. Thanks for your input ? 3lb.-12oz. could do it. I only know that fact because it happen to me when I was netting said fish. Short line, rod bent to the max and drag adjusted too tight. you’ll never know for sure, so just call it a seven pounder. Before long you’ll be doing so without thinking about it.
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