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While we are speaking of extreme weather, here's a helpful tip if you are ever caught in these conditions, and you have to run with the wind.

All of the boats mentioned here are fast enough to match the speed of the waves. The safest way to run with the sea is to ride the back side of the wave, controlling boat speed so that you are "climbing" the wave toward the crest.

Never ride the front side of the wave. You may find yourself surfing the wave, putting yourself in danger of pitchpoling, or yawing badly enough to get broadside to the sea and being swamped.

Also, one of the most important things I've learned is that every wave, or set of waves, is different, and should be driven as such. It takes a lot of concentration and can be very nerve racking.

Absolutely true, especially on the ocean.  You can have ground swells several feet high with the surface like glass.  Combine swells with wind driven waves, and it produces an interesting combination.  The waves and the swells, though moving in the same direction travel at different speeds.  At times they cancel each other out.  Other times they combine to make conditions worse.

The time between the two extremes can be several seconds or a few minutes.  We've all seen surfers sitting on their boards off the beach, waiting for the perfect or better waves.

If you've heard of "rogue waves" they are the result of various surface conditions coming together to produce them, much like lows converging to create "perfect storms".

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hsve you seen the video footage from deadliest catch when the rogue wave hit one of the boats, it was pretty crazy.

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I know there are people that look down their noses at Nitro, but I sure wish I had one.

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I know there are people that look down their noses at Nitro, but I sure wish I had one.

I know one Angler that doesn't.....KVD.

Tight Lines

Pa Angler

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I was at bass pro last week and happened to check out the Z7 they had on display.  It looked fully equipped with opti 150, electonics, and talon anchor system.  It was a single console and was priced at $23k and change.  I thought it was a good price for a new boat with said options.  The other thing  I noticed was the beam.  It looked to be a nice wide beam.

Now that said, I think there are some great bargains out there on used rigs but, with a new unit you shouldn't have to worry about repairs and upgrades for a few years.  You can just go out and fish.

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I was at bass pro last week and happened to check out the Z7 they had on display. It looked fully equipped with opti 150, electonics, and talon anchor system. It was a single console and was priced at $23k and change. I thought it was a good price for a new boat with said options. The other thing I noticed was the beam. It looked to be a nice wide beam.

Now that said, I think there are some great bargains out there on used rigs but, with a new unit you shouldn't have to worry about repairs and upgrades for a few years. You can just go out and fish.

That 23k doesn't include the Talon or shipping and dealer prep I have a new 2011 Z-7.

Tight Lines

Pa Angler

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I second buying a USED boat over a new Z-7, you can get a MUCH better deal and end up with much more boat in quality and size.   You could pick-up that garage kept Ranger, Bass Cat, or Skeeter if you are patient.  Try using searchtempest.com as your search engine.

As far as running rough waters (over 3') in a bass boat, I don't care if your boat is 21' or 18 1/2' its still ROUGH and hard too do safely.

Remember when B.A.S.S. use to run 18-19' boat all day long in all kinds of lakes and that was the norm?  Smart captains know their equipments limitations and if you get caught in rough water take your time and learn how to handle the boat before you do it.

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New vs used?  I'd opt for the new.  It comes with a warranty.  As for Rangers, Bass Cats, etc., being better than a Nitro, what's the point?  You get what you pay for, and the fish don't know if you're fishing from an Allison or a shingle.  They don't care either.

I'm perfectly happy with my Nitro, though there were a few kinks they had to take care of, like installing the wrong propeller.  Of course that had nothing to do with the boat.

You won't catch one more fish out of the most expensive bass boat than you will out of a similar boat that costs much less.

A man and a boat are a team.  And the man in the boat is more important than the boat the man is in when it comes to catching fish.

If one is to believe that you will do better fishing in one boat than another, then the best boat, hands down has to be a Nitro.  Kevin Van Dam fishes from a Z9.  If the others were so much better he'd use them and the manufacturers would be delighted to pay him to do so.

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New vs used? I'd opt for the new. It comes with a warranty. As for Rangers, Bass Cats, etc., being better than a Nitro, what's the point? You get what you pay for, and the fish don't know if you're fishing from an Allison or a shingle. They don't care either.

I'm perfectly happy with my Nitro, though there were a few kinks they had to take care of, like installing the wrong propeller. Of course that had nothing to do with the boat.

You won't catch one more fish out of the most expensive bass boat than you will out of a similar boat that costs much less.

A man and a boat are a team. And the man in the boat is more important than the boat the man is in when it comes to catching fish.

If one is to believe that you will do better fishing in one boat than another, then the best boat, hands down has to be a Nitro. Kevin Van Dam fishes from a Z9. If the others were so much better he'd use them and the manufacturers would be delighted to pay him to do so.

Congrats on your new boat. There's nothing wrong with a Nitro. You know how people think "My dog is bigger & better than your dog".

Tight Lines

Pa Angler

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I haven't run one, just went over them in the showroom.  There's a reason the Z7 is cheaper than a similar Triton, Ranger, or Stratos.  Tracker cuts corners.  I know from experience.

That said, if I was in the market for a new boat, I would have to look very hard at the Z7.  That or the Triton 18 Explorer would most likely be my two choices.

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New vs used? I'd opt for the new. It comes with a warranty. As for Rangers, Bass Cats, etc., being better than a Nitro, what's the point? You get what you pay for, and the fish don't know if you're fishing from an Allison or a shingle. They don't care either.

I'm perfectly happy with my Nitro, though there were a few kinks they had to take care of, like installing the wrong propeller. Of course that had nothing to do with the boat.

You won't catch one more fish out of the most expensive bass boat than you will out of a similar boat that costs much less.

A man and a boat are a team. And the man in the boat is more important than the boat the man is in when it comes to catching fish.

If one is to believe that you will do better fishing in one boat than another, then the best boat, hands down has to be a Nitro. Kevin Van Dam fishes from a Z9. If the others were so much better he'd use them and the manufacturers would be delighted to pay him to do so.

Rhino is correct, you cannot usually transfer component/trailer warranties on used boats, but last time I checked most were *** years on components, depending on manufacture. So is it a big deal, up to you to decide.

Structural warranty transfers can be done and in my book that matters much more than component warranties. For example if you buy a 2008 Skeeter, the hull warranty is 10 years from date of purchase so it will extend until 2018 to second non-original owner. Nitro hull warranty is first 5 years of service to second owner. So you could buy a 3 year old boat and transfer ownership from original owner is still have 2 years left. Lastly, motor warranties, the most important, are transferable and you can actually extend them at times. So the argument that warranty is the main reason to buy new is really not that strong especially if the boat is within 3 or so years old.

He is also right in that the boat really doesn't matter, I actually have been catching bigger and more bass in some of the small waters around the city, on a jon boat not my Ranger. So although KVD fishes out of a Nitro doesn't it mean Nitro has the best resale value, best customer service, best over quality of workmanship? Shoot I bet KVD could fish with a Ugly Stick an entry level or Spider Man spin caster off a Tracker car topper and still out fish other pros if the conditions are right. Point is most of us are not KVD and get boats given to us by sponsors that pay us to use them every year. Most boat owners want their boats to last a long time without any major problems, so why not get a "better" and better is totally subjective it could mean bigger, larger HP, more high end components, better build quality, better resale, different manufacture, etc.

What does matter to most people is money. That being said why not buy a 2 to 5 year old boat that someone has taken a HUGE depreciation hit and use the savings. It can even be a Nitro if you'd like, just went on on ebay and looked at an 2009 Nitro loaded for $27K and warranty is through 2014 on 225 Pro XS Merc motor and hull warranty is through 2014 if hull warranty policy was same in 2009!

Therefore, why not try to look for what you want, but a little older and in like new condition for 3/4 of the price or something better for the same price you are willing to pay. I looked for my USED boat for over 6 months and could not be happier and I customized it to the way I fish. Also, the fish can't tell its used ;) . I ended up with a Ranger, but originally wanted an Action Craft.

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Hi rowyourboat,

I have a 2007 Ranger 188vs Brand New for sale.

If interested please email me

Thanks, Ron

mustang1989@epix.net

If this post is not allowed, I'm sorry

and please delete.

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I haven't run one, just went over them in the showroom. There's a reason the Z7 is cheaper than a similar Triton, Ranger, or Stratos. Tracker cuts corners. I know from experience.

That said, if I was in the market for a new boat, I would have to look very hard at the Z7. That or the Triton 18 Explorer would most likely be my two choices.

Now that I'm a proud owner of 2011 Z-7 I wouldn't say cheaper less expensive is a better description. It's my first Nitro but from what I've heard from other owners is that the Nitro's have come a long way from what they were 10 -15 years ago. Nitro now gelcoats the battery compartment, under the console's, storage comparment's and carpet the rod lockers.

Tight Lines

Pa Angler

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