2023 Fishing fluorocarbon line test

[FryDog62]

Ok, no more hanging 8 lb weights with fishing line from my vaulted ceiling. Someone did a much more comprehensive testing of fluorocarbon lines... including:

• Diameter
• Memory
• Strength
• Abrasion
• Price
• And Yes, even s-t-r-e-t-c-h   

 

 

[dodgeguy]

Where did Seaguar basix come in ?

[Cbump]

What’s the verdict? I hate watching videos. 

[AlabamaSpothunter]

Memory test has me about to turn it off, I'll power on, but my own first hand experience tells me that PLine isn't coming in at the top 3 in memory and it's my favorite and most used Flouro lol.   

 

 

[Big Swimbait]

4 minutes ago, Cbump said:

What’s the verdict? I hate watching videos. 

Spro was his winner

[Cbump]

Didn’t even know spro made fc. Thanks

[MN Fisher]

1 hour ago, FryDog62 said:

Ok, no more hanging 8 lb weights with fishing line from my vaulted ceiling. Someone did a much more comprehensive testing of fluorocarbon lines.

Trust you to find this kind of thing, Chris....good stuff.

[txchaser]

I had a few complaints about his testing methodology. As an example, he showed strength as a function of size (good), but didn't do the same approach for stretch, or for abrasion. Line memory shows Tatsu worse than Invisx on stretch...eh, no I have them both.

 

Some of the results defy explanation though, like vanish taking solid scores on a lot of tests. 

 

If you skip to the last five minutes of the videos you'll see a screenshot of each of the tests.

 

TBH I'm sure the spro line is great, but no way I'm buying 164yd spools. 

 

@dodgeguy better to look at the individual rating items than a composite score. But from eyeballing the chart it looked like it did ok on everything but stretch. But it also showed tatsu and abrasx with lots of stretch too.

 

So anyway I'm trying to keep an open mind because at least he tried to make it kind of scientific. I really wish he'd bought by line size. Just because I don't agree with his results doesn't mean they are wrong. But one would think some of the more commonly used lines would have had results consistent with our collective experience on BR. 

 

On strength I care much more about knotted shock strength than slow pull and unknotted. 

 

If he was sponsored by spro, mission accomplished, TW is sold out of the Spro Gouken.

[Lead Head]

I agree about knot strength, it's far more important to me than straight strength. I use absolutely 0 fluorocarbon line without a knot. I'm not sure how you would test it, but knot shock strength would probably be the most important test for me personally. 

[FryDog62]

Knot strength is the missing test IMO, he should've borrowed the machine from the old "Knot Wars" with Pennaz. 

[Big Swimbait]

I guess the the biggest surprise to me was that there doesn't seem to be a lot of rebranding from one factory.

[FryDog62]

1 hour ago, Big Swimbait said:

I guess the the biggest surprise to me was that there doesn't seem to be a lot of rebranding from one factory.

Yes, I had always heard this too… that there was Seaguar and then all/most other brands came from the same factory.  Just the variance in line diameter seems to disprove at least some of that.

[Deleted account]

ZZZZZZZZ...

[garroyo130]

My suspicions are confirmed. Vanish is better than Tatsu. I knew I wasnt just being cheap!

[FishTank]

[dodgeguy]

I'll take Sufix Advance Mono. I hate flourocarbon.

[Armin J]

1 hour ago, dodgeguy said:

I'll take Sufix Advance Mono. I hate flourocarbon.

This is what I use and really don’t see a reason to change. I also like CX Premium but Advance is stiffer and maybe more sensitive. 
I don’t really see how any line could be better in noticeable way. 

I use 8 to 12 lbs test for different applications and no issues.

[Tom Orr]

1 hour ago, dodgeguy said:

I'll take Sufix Advance Mono. I hate flourocarbon.

I'm with you on this. I haven't found a better co-poly or mono. And believe me, I've tried so many over the years. Never had even the slightest problem with Sufix Advance mono 

[KP Duty]

13 hours ago, txchaser said:

 

Some of the results defy explanation though, like vanish taking solid scores on a lot of tests. 

 

@dodgeguy 

Vanish is a different formula than the one that made it infamous 20 years ago.  The damage to the name has lived on...

[Kelvin]

 I tried tons of fluro lines.  Tatsu and sniper are the best ones to date though I never tried Spro but I picked some up just on principle bc of the tests.

[Tatulatard]

16 hours ago, Cbump said:

Didn’t even know spro made fc. Thanks

They probably don't and it's someone else's product with their name on it.  Whatever it is it seems legit.

[WRB]

He left out knot strength for a reason? His line strength device could have been used for knot strength.

2 important factors come to mind, 1) no standard test procedure exist and 2) no test methods exists.

Line tests is meaningless without knot and impact testing using line diameter as the baseline. We can’t use line without a knot or set hooks without strong impact strength.

It comes down to what knot will the majority of anglers accept? 

Low stretch isn’t good with FC line....indicates low impact strength. 

Tom

[dodgeguy]

Flourocarbon does not recover from max stretching.

[txchaser]

On 3/10/2023 at 4:55 AM, Lead Head said:

I agree about knot strength, it's far more important to me than straight strength. I use absolutely 0 fluorocarbon line without a knot. I'm not sure how you would test it, but knot shock strength would probably be the most important test for me personally. 

Some braid with an FG (terminal knot will always fail first) on either side to different lines, then on to a terminal knot on a hook sized for that line. Same knot on both sides. One end on a long door handle, one on a dowel. Safety glasses, and yank the crap out of it. Repeat three times. No way to get a poundage measurement, but I'm just looking for relative results at the same diameter anyway. Whichever line broke loses. If lines are close then my non-scientific acceleration will show a tie that looks like random failures. I'm not tying 3 (tests) x 27 (lines) worth of fg knots. I do believe that different formulations will have different knot strength. 

 

I did the above for head to head knot testing on the same line (skipping the braid/fg) and got repeatable results across a bunch of tests. As an example, Double San Diego Jam was consistently the winner over a single SDJ on tatsu and 3/0 hooks, I think on 15lb line. 

 

It's a lot of work but it's doable, and repeatable.