Super User Tennessee Boy Posted March 9, 2023 Super User Posted March 9, 2023 In a recent video Randy Blaukat does his usual rant against Livescope and says 80% of anglers are opposed to it. I find that hard to believe. If it’s true then why aren’t local tournament organizations cashing in on the demand for tournaments that ban live sonar? Do you think 80% of anglers are opposed to live sonar? Do you currently have it? Has it ruined the mystery and magic of fishing for you? 1 Quote
Super User Bird Posted March 9, 2023 Super User Posted March 9, 2023 I usually enjoy Randy's videos but can't say I'm opposed to live scope......my wallet is. 8 2 Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 9, 2023 Super User Posted March 9, 2023 Around here it's 60-40 60% have it, with many saying they use it in situations. Opposed? It's here ? 2 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted March 9, 2023 Global Moderator Posted March 9, 2023 Hahahah. Come on @Tennessee Boy, you gonna believe a number he made up ? If he’s talking to a camera, he’s throwing out made up numbers. 85.6% of his facts are erroneous I don’t have it, don’t want it, not opposed to it whatsoever. To say it will harm fishing is an insult to fish 9 Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted March 9, 2023 Super User Posted March 9, 2023 I’m going to go out in a limb and guess 100% that have it support its use, and 100% of those that don’t have it but can afford are against it… 6 Quote
Super User Bankc Posted March 9, 2023 Super User Posted March 9, 2023 I'm opposed to live sonar. And until it comes down in price to something I can convince my wife to let me have, that will remain my position. 4 9 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted March 9, 2023 Super User Posted March 9, 2023 Being for or against a FF doesn't make sense to me... 5 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted March 9, 2023 Global Moderator Posted March 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, FryDog62 said: I’m going to go out in a limb and guess 100% that have it support its use, and 100% of those that don’t have it but can afford are against it… Your limb just snapped 1 3 Quote
Super User J._Bricker Posted March 9, 2023 Super User Posted March 9, 2023 How’s it go- “ If you aren’t moving forward you’re falling behind.” And yes I do have it. What I’ve learned when using it is there’s A LOT of fish down there that prior to FFS I would’ve thought just weren’t there. In my opinion it still comes down to being in the right place at the right time and doing the right thing with the right bait to get bit. Technology just helps and will continue to do so 4 Quote
Ktho Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 As a recreational angler I really don't give two squirts. In a tournament setting there's already plenty of things that affect the 'purity' of the sport or whatever you want to call it. Unless they're going to go the stock route and have every angler fish the same boat with the same preset rigs I say let them do whatever they want. 3 Quote
Super User gim Posted March 9, 2023 Super User Posted March 9, 2023 I could afford it if I wanted to. I don't think I would get very much use of out if though, primarily being a bank/structure/shallow water fisherman. I am not opposed to someone else using it. I don't fish tournaments, but I think there needs to be a limit on units in competition. We don't need someone showing up with 8 units mounted like someone did on the PMTT last July. 4 Quote
InfantryMP Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 I am for it, I also have it. I was also for it when I did not have it. I find it hard to believe the 80% of anglers oppose it. I would like to see the study. 5 Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted March 9, 2023 Super User Posted March 9, 2023 Never forget Randy did a video on the A-Rig but instead of using swimbaits he had 5 Vision 110's rigged on it. One of his "top secrets". The guy is just a troll looking for views. 6 10 Quote
swhit140 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 I'm not apposed to it, I see it as a tool. I have no electronics on my small 14' boat, I caught fish at every lake I fished last year so I don't complain. In a few years when I get a larger boat with electronics I would like to learn how to use it to have the ability to locate more fish and ability to find areas you don't know are under the water. You still have to present the bait to the fish to get them to commit to bite it. 5 Quote
PressuredFishing Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 Remember when basic 2d sonar became a thing that anybody could afford and it was so neat, still I think it's so neat, even the cheaper versions that aren't as clear. I am not apposed to livescope, I still don't quite understand how to read it well, maybe if I understand it better I will have a more educated opinion, but for now i just look at it as a better fish finder. 1 Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted March 9, 2023 Super User Posted March 9, 2023 43 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Your limb just snapped It was my best attempt to stir the pot anyway like Randy B is known to do ? 2 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted March 9, 2023 Global Moderator Posted March 9, 2023 46 minutes ago, J._Bricker said: What I’ve learned when using it is there’s A LOT of fish down there that prior to FFS I would’ve thought just weren’t there. And all these years I thought you were reading my posts……… ? I’ve posted this story on here many times, but I was fishing a set of rapids with my friends, and we had three guys in the boat, all getting skunked for several hours. It was super hot and confidence was low so I jumped into the water and started swimming. My buddy said he had a diving mask and a snorkel if I wanted to use it. Turns out we were fishing amongst a whole bunch of large smallmouth bass. The fish are always there, most often ignoring the efforts of fishermen. Or following the lure without biting, heck they would follow me while I was swimming and even mean mug my mask face to face Diving mask: the original forward facing sonar 4 Quote
Gera Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 For the common man hell yeah! its fine to use whatever to catch fish... however on tournament level doesn't feel right to me, it lowers the value of experience and knowledge and replace it with a video game screen with a dropshot for controller.. its like hunting with drones with thermal cameras. Such high dependence on electronics its just one more reason tournament fishing lost we a while back and now couldn't care less.. Now this dude's videos are another point for conversation.. 4 Quote
KSanford33 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 I'm no more opposed to LiveScope or FFS than I am someone using an $800 driver in a golf tournament. At the end of the day, you still need to get the fish to bite or put the ball in the hole. I do fish tournaments, but almost invariably I start shallow and work my way deeper if I need to. I'll be the first to admit that I can't afford it. Actually, let me rephrase that, my marriage can't afford it, but I don't know that I'd get a ton of use out of it even if I could. 3 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted March 9, 2023 Global Moderator Posted March 9, 2023 33 minutes ago, InfantryMP said: I am for it, I also have it. I was also for it when I did not have it. I find it hard to believe the 80% of anglers oppose it. I would like to see the study. There was no study haha. Just an ornery old man spouting off 4 Quote
Super User GaryH Posted March 9, 2023 Super User Posted March 9, 2023 I’m all for it. I use it but I don’t stare at it or depend on it. Every few years something new comes along there’s controversy. You can either embrace it or not that’s our/your choice. 3 Quote
Super User T-Billy Posted March 9, 2023 Super User Posted March 9, 2023 I'm fine with FFS. I'm sure I'll buy a unit one of these days, maybe soon. I am however, opposed to Randy Blaukat's B.S. 6 5 Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted March 9, 2023 Super User Posted March 9, 2023 When I retire and get a boat and can afford FFS then I will come up with an opinion. 1 Quote
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