Power Pole Move

[12poundbass]

Well the elusive creature has finally been released. No not Bigfoot, it’s Power Pole’s trolling motor that we’ve heard whispers about for what seems like an eternity! It’s finally here and with a pretty steep price tag too!

 

https://power-pole.com/move-zr

[casts_by_fly]

Not sure I see the benefit over a Ghost.  Both are lowrance compatible, brushless, 24/36V systems.  The ZR doesn't list a thrust, though does say 30% more than leading motors.  If that means they are getting 145 lb thrust from 36V (minn kota is 112 at 36) or 156lb which is 30% more than the ghosts 120 then that is impressive.  That would let you use a 24V system like a 36V and save a battery.  The Ghost is 97 lb at 24V.  That would give 126 lb on the ZR at 24 V if its truly 30% more than leading models.  If you're limited to 24V, don't have the battery space, etc, and need 126 lb thrust then maybe that's important for you.  If you're trying to go as light as possible then a single 24V lithium battery and this motor is a lot of power in one place.  That said, I don't see all of that applying to most people.  

[jhoffman]

Yeah im not gonna beta test your trolling motor at 5g

[GPtimes2]

Scroll down to the first video and there is a spec tab.

100# thrust at 36 volts and 78# at 24 volts. So that's the same as Garim at 36 but 2# less at 24.

Something that is lacking with the transducer option is it only uses Lowrance or Simrad at med hi chirp 455/800 hz and down scan. So no high def or side scan.

I am set on my Garmin and If it died out of warranty I would go back with it again. Nothing intriguing enough to switch to something else.

 

[casts_by_fly]

29 minutes ago, GPtimes2 said:

Scroll down to the first video and there is a spec tab.

100# thrust at 36 volts and 78# at 24 volts. So that's the same as Garim at 36 but 2# less at 24.

Something that is lacking with the transducer option is it only uses Lowrance or Simrad at med hi chirp 455/800 hz and down scan. So no high def or side scan.

I am set on my Garmin and If it died out of warranty I would go back with it again. Nothing intriguing enough to switch to something else.

 

 

Thanks.  I scrolled but didn't see that bit.

 

In that case, I see no benefit or upgrade over someone who has a ghost.  For a product that has been rumored and worked on for so long, you'd think they'd have had more up their sleeve.

 

thanks,

rick

[12poundbass]

Hopefully Minnkota doesn’t say, “everyone’s trolling motors are more than ours, let’s Jack our price up!”

 

[Bankc]

1 hour ago, casts_by_fly said:

 

Thanks.  I scrolled but didn't see that bit.

 

In that case, I see no benefit or upgrade over someone who has a ghost.  For a product that has been rumored and worked on for so long, you'd think they'd have had more up their sleeve.

 

thanks,

rick

But did you see the titanium shaft?  And the Dyneema Super Cord?  Yeah, they cheaped out by not giving it a jewel encrusted prop, but it's got everything else you could want.  

[casts_by_fly]

I wouldn't want a dyneema pull cord.  Dyneema (amsteel) doesn't take well to abrasion and will fray.  I'd think unless they have some super pulleys in there, the dyneema will get pretty rough looking in short order.

 

and it better  have a good spring system on the mount.  Titanium doesn't flex or give.  Without give in the mount, you're going to be stressing the mounting screws if you hit something.  I'm sure they have considered it, but I just don't see the reason for a titanium shaft.  Is the weight savings really that important?  Are they positioning this to boaters who have double live units, live lock, mega 360, and other weight on the nose of the boat as a way to cut some of the weight?

[WIGuide]

Just saw this come out in a few places. It's got some kind of cool features to it like the buttons and display, but not sure how I feel about those. One, they're wireless so more batteries to replace and one could die while fishing and the pedal is wireless too. I'd rather have it wired so as long as the tm has power everything to control it does too. The other thing with so many people running more graphs up front, shallow water anchors, the foot controlled turrets now where do you put it all? It is lighter weight by about 10 lbs. vs the Ghost which is a huge advantage as far as overall boat performance I'm sure it's overbuilt and is backed by one of the best customer service departments on the planet, but I'm not sure it would justify the price. 

 

On a side note when it comes to thrust, I remember a few videos of people trying to measure the actual lbs. of thrust to see if it aligned to what the tm's were rated at. They were unable to replicate the numbers advertised on the other trolling motors and I believe Garmin was the closest to advertised so I'm assuming Power Pole is accurate with what they're advertising. 

 

I'm not thinking that even if I did have the money that I'd be dropping that much money on. I've been beyond pleased with my Ghost and it has more sonar options available that tie right into the system. 

 

After doing a little more research, the only wireless portion that uses batteries is the spot lock/heading lock buttons. The wireless display and wireless foot pedal are only wirelessly connected to the trolling motor, but are still wired into the boat batteries. Still doesn't change my opinion. 

Edited March 6, 2023 by WIGuide
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[Glenn]

The official word from Power-Pole:

https://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_123/power-pole-trolling-motor-3323.html

[HenryPF]

Saw the video, etc. yeah $5k for a trolling motor, not a chance. I didn't wait to pay $3k for the Force but after hearing all the Minn Kota Ultrex board replacements from my authorized Minn Kota service center, went with Garmin. Could not be happier.

 

Realistically all Minn Kota has to do is make the Ultrex brushless and auto connect at 24-36volts an use a steel cable. Trolling motor wars would end as the majority is not gonna pay 2k extra for features that is nice to have but don't need.

 

But since boats are 100k now, what is an extra $2-3k?

[GreenPig]

5K! Nope. 

[Woody B]

 

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Follow a Route feature guided by ProNav 

 

That's enough to keep me away from one.  It might also explain why it's taken so long to develop the motor.  

[TnRiver46]

Looks pretty schnazzy!!! I just spent $180 on a trolling motor and that hurt bad enough haha

[Captain Phil]

I am extremely wary of brand new products.  Until they work out all the bugs, you are asking for trouble.  It took years for me to switch from Motor Guide to Minn Kota and I probably won't live long enough to switch again. Do you know what happens to pioneers?  They die with flaming arrow holes in their backs!  ?

[12poundbass]

14 minutes ago, Captain Phil said:

I am extremely wary of brand new products.  Until they work out all the bugs, you are asking for trouble.  It took years for me to switch from Motor Guide to Minn Kota and I probably won't live long enough to switch again. Do you know what happens to pioneers?  They die with flaming arrow holes in their backs!  ?

They’ve been hinting at this trolling motor for at least 4 years now, so hopefully they have all the bugs worked out by now. 

17 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

Looks pretty schnazzy!!! I just spent $180 on a trolling motor and that hurt bad enough haha

Too expensive for me. The only thing left for me to decide is whether or not I should mark my own post on my thread as the solution like someone else does. ?

[GPtimes2]

56 minutes ago, 12poundbass said:

They’ve been hinting at this trolling motor for at least 4 years now, so hopefully they have all the bugs worked out by now. 

Too expensive for me. The only thing left for me to decide is whether or not I should mark my own post on my thread as the solution like someone else does. ?

I didn't know about solutions till you brought it up. So you have a solution for the solutions by marking your own.

How/where  do you give or get solution?

[12poundbass]

32 minutes ago, GPtimes2 said:

I didn't know about solutions till you brought it up. So you have a solution for the solutions by marking your own.

How/where  do you give or get solution?

Only the originator of a thread can give a solution. 

[Fishin Dad]

$5,000 seems crazy, especially since it not proven yet.  I also agree there will be a learning curve in making their first trolling motor.

 The one thing I would say is this, Power Pole has been known to have the best customer service in the business.  That alone will have some people trusting this purchase.  

[Woody B]

8 hours ago, Fishin Dad said:

$5,000 seems crazy, especially since it not proven yet.

 

The world is full of "beta testers" willing to pay top dollar for the latest and greatest.   Unlike sonar stuff I doubt the price will come down any on this trolling motor.  

[Fishin Dad]

9 minutes ago, Woody B said:

 

The world is full of "beta testers" willing to pay top dollar for the latest and greatest.   Unlike sonar stuff I doubt the price will come down any on this trolling motor.  

True.   I just hope with more competition, it might drive down prices for all.  Not saying it will, but hopeful.  Nothing seems to be dropping anywhere however.  

[Darth-Baiter]

DAANNNGGG!!  i can even stomach paying for a $250 carbon fiber kayak paddle.

 

you boat guys are ballers!!

[TnRiver46]

3 hours ago, Darth-Baiter said:

DAANNNGGG!!  i can even stomach paying for a $250 carbon fiber kayak paddle.

 

you boat guys are ballers!!

I don’t think anyone has bought it yet haha

[gim]

On 3/4/2023 at 8:22 AM, 12poundbass said:

Only the originator of a thread can give a solution. 

And I’ve only seen one moderator mark his own response as a solution to his own thread. It’s fishy.

 

[TnRiver46]

11 hours ago, gimruis said:

And I’ve only seen one moderator mark his own response as a solution to his own thread. It’s fishy.

 

That’s like 20% of the moderators…. It’s science