jlieu Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 Hoping someone familiar with these models can clarify some things for me. I'm still learning the Daiwa brand...but these two seem fairly similar to me so I wanted to make sure I'm not missing anything. For reference, I am comparing the Coastal SV TW 150 to the Tatula SV TW103 released in 2020 (Model TTUSV103 not the TASV103 which I believe are the 2017 models). From my understanding, both these reels are based on the Tatula 100 frame and share the following features: 7(2CRBB) 5BB + 1 T-Wing System Magnetic Braking System Aluminum Body Zero Adjuster With that said, I believe the following are the only difference between the Coastal SV TW 150 to the SV TW103: 100mm Handle (compared to 90mm handle) 150 size Spool (compared to 100 size spool) Blue Finish (compared to the bluish-black finish) Thanks for any feedback/confirmation on this! 1 Quote
JediAmoeba Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 The coastal has 2 more crbb. Corrosion resistant ball bearings for salt use. They also replaced a bearing with a bushing in the Coastal version - probably the one under the main drive gear which is notorious for corrosion. 1 Quote
jlieu Posted February 25, 2023 Author Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, JediAmoeba said: The coastal has 2 more crbb. Corrosion resistant ball bearings for salt use. They also replaced a bearing with a bushing in the Coastal version - probably the one under the main drive gear which is notorious for corrosion. Ahhh ok, nice. Good to know. Thanks for the info man! Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted February 25, 2023 Super User Posted February 25, 2023 Coastal is blue, bigger handle, and a deeper spool. Thats it 1 Quote
AmmoGuy Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 The Coastal has an aluminum side plate (like the elite). 1 Quote
Tackleholic Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 8 hours ago, jlieu said: Hoping someone familiar with these models can clarify some things for me. I'm still learning the Daiwa brand...but these two seem fairly similar to me so I wanted to make sure I'm not missing anything. For reference, I am comparing the Coastal SV TW 150 to the Tatula SV TW103 released in 2020 (Model TTUSV103 not the TASV103 which I believe are the 2017 models). From my understanding, both these reels are based on the Tatula 100 frame and share the following features: 7(2CRBB) 5BB + 1 T-Wing System Magnetic Braking System Aluminum Body Zero Adjuster With that said, I believe the following are the only difference between the Coastal SV TW 150 to the SV TW103: 100mm Handle (compared to 90mm handle) 150 size Spool (compared to 100 size spool) Blue Finish (compared to the bluish-black finish) Thanks for any feedback/confirmation on this! No feedback, but a question........"what is the difference between the SV and the SV103??? Quote
JediAmoeba Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Tackleholic said: No feedback, but a question........"what is the difference between the SV and the SV103??? Size. The regular sv is about a 150 size frame - the same size frame as the previous gen Tatula. Over the last 6 or 7 years Daiwa has really convoluted the size if their low profile baitcasters... Quote
Tatulatard Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 16 hours ago, iabass8 said: Coastal is blue, bigger handle, and a deeper spool. Thats it Yep. The spool is also larger diameter too. It's a 34 mil vs the 32 of the tatula sv. Frame is the same dimensions though so its not like the tatula sv sits any lower. I would advise getting neither reel and getting the jdm zillion instead or the elite long cast for $170 from that chinease site. Us retailers are real proud of the tatulas and the price reflects that. Quote
jlieu Posted February 25, 2023 Author Posted February 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Tackleholic said: No feedback, but a question........"what is the difference between the SV and the SV103??? Mostly size, but there are a few other things too. Daiwa should really work on their naming convention... From my understanding, the Tatula SV (Models TASV103) is the 2017 model that continued to stay in production after the 2020 model. It is built on a slightly bigger frame (maybe 150 size as JediAmoeba mentioned). But is also uses the traditional brake adjustment knob (instead of the "zero adjust" on the newer models) and utilizes anodized, color-coded accents to help identify each version by its gear ratio (red, gold, purple). Because it is on a different frame, the IPT will vary slightly as well despite identical gear ratios from the SV TW103. Similarly, the Coastal TW differs from the Coastal SV TW 150 in a similar manner as well with the following differences: a 200 size spool, 7CRBB + 1, EVA round ball knobs handles, and also utilizes the traditional brake adjustment knob. 1 Quote
AmmoGuy Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Tatulatard said: Yep. The spool is also larger diameter too. It's a 34 mil vs fbe 32 of the tatula sv. Frame is the same dimensions thought so its not like the tatula sv sits any lower. I would advise getting neither reel and getting the jdm zillion instead or the elite long cast for $170 from that chinease site. Us retailers are real proud of the tatulas and the price reflects that. Listen to this advice. I own multiple coastals and multiple Zillions. No way I’d ever buy another coastal (or Tat SV) when you can get the Zillions at JPY prices. 1 hour ago, Tatulatard said: Yep. The spool is also larger diameter too. It's a 34 mil vs fbe 32 of the tatula sv. Frame is the same dimensions thought so its not like the tatula sv sits any lower. I would advise getting neither reel and getting the jdm zillion instead or the elite long cast for $170 from that chinease site. Us retailers are real proud of the tatulas and the price reflects that. Also, the main gear/drag setup is a slightly different design in the Coastal. Quote
jlieu Posted February 25, 2023 Author Posted February 25, 2023 38 minutes ago, AmmoGuy said: Listen to this advice. I own multiple coastals and multiple Zillions. No way I’d ever buy another coastal (or Tat SV) when you can get the Zillions at JPY prices. Also, the main gear/drag setup is a slightly different design in the Coastal. You guys are slowly, but surely, convincing me...lol From what I hear, the only difference between JDM and US Zillion is that US has a larger handle and a brass gear? It's a bit odd that it's at least $100 difference between the two despite being nearly identical. Quote
JediAmoeba Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, AmmoGuy said: I own multiple coastals and multiple Zillions. No way I’d ever buy another coastal (or Tat SV) when you can get the Zillions at JPY prices. I have the new zillion and the old zillion. I have the SV 103 and 6 of the 2017 SV models. I prefer both the older models because the frame is bigger. The new reels are too small IMO. I am someone that loves throwing 300 size reels all day though so... The previous Zillion and the 2017 SV use the same size frame. I was able to upgrade 2.of my old Tatulas with SV spools and bearings and they are the same as the SV - there are only minor cosmetic differences really. 1 hour ago, AmmoGuy said: Also, the main gear/drag setup is a slightly different design in the Coastal. 38 minutes ago, jlieu said: From what I hear, the only difference between JDM and US Zillion is that US has a larger handle and a brass gear? It's a bit odd that it's at least $100 difference between the two despite being nearly identical. If you prefer the brass gears you can order them from Daiwa - they don't cost too much tbh. I put the Tatula SV 103 on a rod for my son because I prefer the 2017 models... Quote
Tatulatard Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 5 hours ago, jlieu said: You guys are slowly, but surely, convincing me...lol From what I hear, the only difference between JDM and US Zillion is that US has a larger handle and a brass gear? It's a bit odd that it's at least $100 difference between the two despite being nearly identical. The US model is more expensive because the dollar is stronger and also US retailers are jerks and don't offer the heavy discount over MSRP like you see everywhere else. The two combined are especially brutal. As far as tatulas go it is very simple. There have been 3 generations and all 3 are still in production and sold in various markets including the US. We have: The original tatula: 1st tatula. 1st flipping t wing reel. Big solid and wide low profile reel with an aluminum handle side plate. Tatula 100, tatula 100 type-r (exclusive 8:1 ratio), tatula150 HD, tatula 150 HD custom, fuego, fuego HD, prorex 200, 1st gen HRF and sol III. 2019 tatula 150, tatula 200 and coastal 200 tw (they renamed the old 100 to 150 and the old 150 to 200). Tatula CT: Same mechanicals as the 1st tatula but in a narrow frame. No more aluminum handle side plate. Tatula ct, fuego ct, 2017 tatula sv, sol sv tw, 2020 tatula ct, 2019 fuego sv, prorex sv Tatula 100 (again): this is an all new platform. Does not share gears with the older tatulas 2019 tatula 100, 2020 tatula sv, coastal 150 sv, elite long cast, elite PF, prorex pe sv, HRF pe special, salamandera 103 and salamadera 150 sv. There is also some sea jigging reel with hyper gears using this platform that just came out. When parts are available this could allow this tatula gen to get hyper gear swaps. Also the "zero adjuster" isn't a thing. It isn't something new technology fitted to the reel. They are all zero adjust. All your reels right now can be zero adjust. You just gotta stop touching that knob. Daiwa made theirs difficult to turn to discourage you from touching it. They invented the "hard to turn knob". Next they'll invent the "knob with friggin spikes on it" if you all keep at this. 1 Quote
Jordanp Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Also probably the biggest difference between the jdm models vs the usdm(USA) models is that you can not do any warranty work with jdm models daiwa does not honor them. Daiwa will only do warranty work on usdm models. So yes jdm models are cheaper. But if something happens to it you can not get warranty work done by daiwa Quote
swhit140 Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 13 hours ago, Jordanp said: Also probably the biggest difference between the jdm models vs the usdm(USA) models is that you can not do any warranty work with jdm models daiwa does not honor them. Daiwa will only do warranty work on usdm models. So yes jdm models are cheaper. But if something happens to it you can not get warranty work done by daiwa I had a new JDM Daiwa Tatula reel that was noisy not long after I purchased it, I just had to ship it to Daiwa Service. They repaired/shipped the reel for free even though it was a JDM reel which was probably 5-6 year ago. 1 Quote
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