Ski Posted February 17, 2023 Author Posted February 17, 2023 14 hours ago, TnRiver46 said: can a 50 horse do that? I hope not If you can do 35-40MPH why not? Quote
Super User Catt Posted February 17, 2023 Super User Posted February 17, 2023 East Texas lakes are know for eating boats & outboards. I can show you two or three sitting on the bottom right now, so much for level floation. I've seen lower units sheared off, entire transoms with the motor ripped off, can't count how many destroyed hulls. 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted February 17, 2023 Global Moderator Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Ski said: If you can do 35-40MPH why not? I can do bout 28 mph . I figured the extra power is what sends it into the boat 1 Quote
Ski Posted February 17, 2023 Author Posted February 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: I can’t do bout 28 mph . I figured the extra power is what sends it into the boat I would think its about weight of motor and speed, However I don't know. . Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted February 17, 2023 Super User Posted February 17, 2023 11 hours ago, 813basstard said: That..^ Trees and rocks are hard. And have the right of way... 1 Quote
Super User GaryH Posted February 17, 2023 Super User Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Catt said: East Texas lakes are know for eating boats & outboards. I can show you two or three sitting on the bottom right now, so much for level floation. I've seen lower units sheared off, entire transoms with the motor ripped off, can't count how many destroyed hulls. I remember vividly the first time I fished Fork. I couldn’t believe the amount of stumps just below the surface. You better know what you’re doing 1 Quote
mfnew Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 17 hours ago, Ski said: Its one of those things you think will never happen to you. He was doing about 40 MPH trimmed down in a creek channel and hit a cypress stump. The engine broke free of the boat in the middle of the jackplate, flew up and landed on the back deck. When it did, the steering cables tightened up and spun the engine toward him. "I felt water splashing me in the face, looked to my right and saw my prop about a foot from my head spinning. I’m very fortunate to be here, if any number of circumstances were different, my lower unit might have gotten me. I’m not partnered with Precision Sonar but I can tell you I will have a leash on my next boat. Y’all stay safe out there! " Did this happen on Rodman? Quote
Ski Posted February 17, 2023 Author Posted February 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, mfnew said: Did this happen on Rodman? Do not know, However I would not be surprised. Quote
Super User Bird Posted February 17, 2023 Super User Posted February 17, 2023 Just yesterday was talking to my Boat insurance Rep and told him about this thread. He said that there are approximately 10 claims per day submitted regarding outboard damage, props, lower units etc. Quote
Super User Bankc Posted February 17, 2023 Super User Posted February 17, 2023 I don't think the solution to this extremely rare event is buying something. I think the solution should be: don't travel 40mph in shallow waters you're not intimately familiar with, especially if there are stumps around. 11 Quote
Super User Catt Posted February 17, 2023 Super User Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Bankc said: I think the solution should be: don't travel 40mph in shallow waters you're not intimately familiar with, especially if there are stumps around. East Texas lakes have marked boat lanes, get out of those at your own risk. As good as I know Toledo Bend when I'm outside a boat lane it's at idle speed. 5 1 Quote
Super User GaryH Posted February 17, 2023 Super User Posted February 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, Catt said: East Texas lakes have marked boat lanes, get out of those at your own risk. As good as I know Toledo Bend when I'm outside a boat lane it's at idle speed. Let a newbie to one of those lakes look at a boat lane map sd card and see all the skull & crossbones and watch their eyes light up. 1 Quote
jhoffman Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 2 hours ago, GaryH said: Let a newbie to one of those lakes look at a boat lane map sd card and see all the skull & crossbones and watch their eyes light up. That means Treasure X here ... right? 3 Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted February 17, 2023 Super User Posted February 17, 2023 20 hours ago, Way2slow said: Don't know what brand jack plate was on it, bet I bet I know of one brand that won't be on it when it goes back in the water again. It was an Atlas 5 hours ago, Bird said: Just yesterday was talking to my Boat insurance Rep and told him about this thread. He said that there are approximately 10 claims per day submitted regarding outboard damage, props, lower units etc. No doubt the 10 claims/day is due to the sheer amount of idiots on the water. The lake I grew up on had an island with a long super shallow point off one side with hazard buoys on top of it. You wouldn't believe the number of people who would drive right in between the buoys thinking they were channel markers despite clearly being marked hazard and not being red or green. SMH 3 Quote
Super User Bird Posted February 17, 2023 Super User Posted February 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, WIGuide said: It was an Atlas No doubt the 10 claims/day is due to the sheer amount of idiots on the water. The lake I grew up on had an island with a long super shallow point off one side with hazard buoys on top of it. You wouldn't believe the number of people who would drive right in between the buoys thinking they were channel markers despite clearly being marked hazard and not being red or green. SMH Yep, simply hop on YouTube and punch up " idiots on boats" it's alarming the amount of videos. 2 Quote
Super User GaryH Posted February 17, 2023 Super User Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, jhoffman said: That means Treasure X here ... right? I wish.. we’d be rich $$$$ 1 Quote
jhoffman Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, GaryH said: I wish.. we’d be rich $$$$ 2 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted February 17, 2023 Super User Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, WIGuide said: It was an Atlas No doubt the 10 claims/day is due to the sheer amount of idiots on the water. The lake I grew up on had an island with a long super shallow point off one side with hazard buoys on top of it. You wouldn't believe the number of people who would drive right in between the buoys thinking they were channel markers despite clearly being marked hazard and not being red or green. SMH Correct me if I'm wrong A-Jay, but is it "Right, Red, Returning", or "Redneck, Running, Recklessly"... 2 Quote
Super User Way2slow Posted February 17, 2023 Super User Posted February 17, 2023 It's just the luck of the draw. Clarks Hill is a 77,000 acre lake and that same thing can happen following the main channel markers in deep water. When they cut the timber off before filling the lake, they left the ones they could not easily get along the river channels. It wasn't too bad, because you could see tops sticking up and knew where to avoid. Then the COE got the brain fart idea when the lake level was down about eight feet to go along and chop them all off about two feet below that. Now, when the lakes is down nine to 10 feet or more, which is very common in the spring, running the main channel is like running a mine field, even for those that have fished that lake for 60 years like I have. Luckily, I have never hit one because of that knowledge, but I know countless numbers of boats, props and lower units destroyed thinking they were in the "SAFE" deep channel. The funniest thing about it is one of the worst areas on the lake is getting to a large marina in a large creek off the main channel. That's another one of the COE's brain farts. They drop the lake level 10 feet or more about the same time the bass start bedding so the spring rains can raise it back up while they are on the beds, and the wonder what happen to the large mouth population. Back in the 60s-70s that was one of the best large mouth lakes in the country, now it's almost nothing but spotted bass. 2 Quote
Tatulatard Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 5:02 PM, VolFan said: Pardon my skepticism, but you’re telling me that motor’s lower unit hit a stump hard enough to rip it and the Jack plate it was attached to and flip it up on the back the the boat while still running and there’s nary a scratch on that lower unit? And that contact and flip perfectly split those two Raptors without taking either out…at 40 mph??? The physics alone of having the motor hit a stump and flip forwards into a still-moving boat is questionable - Am I missing something? Motors do weird things when they are merely tethered in place. They can dance all around. By the description of the events and not the picture I assume if the motor was broken free of the hull and danced around next to the boat wildly then jumped into the rear deck hence his account of water splashing him. The picture of the motor on the rear deck is likely from it being placed there to trailer the boat and not where it landed. Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted February 24, 2023 Super User Posted February 24, 2023 On 2/22/2023 at 11:26 AM, Tatulatard said: Motors do weird things when they are merely tethered in place. They can dance all around. By the description of the events and not the picture I assume if the motor was broken free of the hull and danced around next to the boat wildly then jumped into the rear deck hence his account of water splashing him. The picture of the motor on the rear deck is likely from it being placed there to trailer the boat and not where it landed. I had the other pictures posted but the link must have changed. It looks like the bolts inside the plate that hold the yoke and lift piston let go which let the slide plate come up and out. The force of the water on the lower unit, coupled with the heavy V8 block tipped the motor forward onto the back deck before it laid over sideways. You can see where the cowling hit the top cap at the front of the splash well. 2 Quote
Super User Way2slow Posted February 25, 2023 Super User Posted February 25, 2023 That's when you hope you have good insurance. While there is a lot of damage that would not keep it from getting back on the water, if necessary, it would be one ugly duckling. It's going to take a healthy chunk of change to make boat and motor look like it did before you introduced it to the stump. That lower unit needs to come off for a thorough inspection for cracks and should be pressure tested, and the mid-section needs to be inspected. That transom will need a thorough inspection also. 2 Quote
GRiver Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 On 2/17/2023 at 7:26 AM, Ski said: I would think its about weight of motor and speed, However I don't know Had the same thing happen to my brother in law and I years ago. Cruising along in his boat on the intercostal, got out of the channel, was telling me about “ that used to be all woods, no it’s condos” etc etc. Well hit a sand bar, motor came off, land back in the boat with us. So it can happen, first had experience. Quote
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