Braid to fluorocarbon leader

[A-Jay]

35 minutes ago, Tatulatard said:

You're not a good looking woman.  Don't point the camera at your face while you tell me about fishing things.  Point the camera at the table and leave it there.

 

A-Jay

[Boomstick]

Alright, I have a split opinion on this matter. And keep in mind it's only an opinion and I'm an ******* so do with that what you will.

 

For light line finesse spinning applications, I will always use a leader. The fluorcarbon will sink which helps keep my line straight, and in some cases mono may be useful also because it floats.

For casting presentations, I generally use mostly straight fluorocarbon or mono. But when I do use braid, it's for throwing frogs or punching mats, at which point adding a leader is adding a weak point to a line that I want to be strong, so it is not buying me anything.

[WIGuide]

I saw who put the video out there and and didn't even bother to watch. So much crap comes out of that guys mouth it's not worth watching the video in my opinion. 

I saw who put the video out there and and didn't even bother to watch. So much crap comes out of that guys mouth it's not worth watching the video in my opinion. 

[Tatulatard]

41 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

 

A-Jay

When it comes to yt content creation you either point the camera at a thing and provide a voice over video or you point the camera at your face if you have a face for it.  Everytime I have watched this man's videos it has been him talking about a bait without it being shown and I get to stare at Mumm-Ra while he describes it before slowly panning the camera over to it.  If he took any type of yt content creation class they would stop that right away.  

[garroyo130]

1 hour ago, Tatulatard said:

If he took any type of yt content creation class they would stop that right away.  

 

Idk hes about to hit 100K subscribers to maybe hes tapping into the hate-watch demographic

[A-Jay]

20 minutes ago, garroyo130 said:

 

Idk hes about to hit 100K subscribers to maybe hes tapping into the hate-watch demographic

It's like train wreck & a dumpster fire both at the same time.

Folks just can't look away.

A-Jay

[waymont]

34 minutes ago, garroyo130 said:

hate-watch

That’s his demographic 

[Scud_Muffin]

I see Oliver Ngy catching tons of fish on crankbaits and jerkbaits with braid:leader. According to Randy those are the biggest baits that should never ever be thrown on braid. Ngy has me wanting to try the crankbaits on braid thing just because it would be helpful for me to have that versatility on a kayak for my moving bait rod. 

I’m still kind of an idiot at fishing so I heard Randy Blaukat’s braid videos and it made me think I was going to be wasting time and money trying it, plus I might spontaneously combust for defying God and nature. Seems like that may be advice not worth listening to given y’all’s reactions to Randy. 

[TnRiver46]

On 2/4/2023 at 1:53 AM, GetFishorDieTryin said:

I agree with some of his sentiments.  I cant see braid having a positive effect as far as visibility goes from POV of the fish in comparison with FC.  I tightline with lightly weighted small swimbaits all winter.  With braid I have the sensitivity to know what that bait is doing on semi slack line.  Many times I cant feel the hit because of the slack in the line, but I can feel the extra tension or complete lack of it when I go to feather the bait and I know to reel into the fish.  I dont have the same kind of connection with FC.  

I think FC is better suited for JBs especially in deep water, it gets the bait down a little better and they aren't going to see that line.  I fish JBs heavy in the winter and use PE to FC and I can honestly say, I rarely lose a fish.  

 

What’s PE? 

[roadwarrior]

 

 

PE, or polyethylene, is the raw base material that braid is made out of, and there are misconceptions that only the expensive Japanese companies use true PE. This isn't true; all braids are PE but the quality of the base material differs greatly, as does the way in which the yarn is made.

[bulldog1935]

@TnRiver46 the way you let others know the question is rhetorical is to leave off the question mark.  

 

If people really want to get confused, in Japan, they still size fluorocarbon using PE#(2.5) 

[TnRiver46]

25 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

@TnRiver46 the way you let others know the question is rhetorical is to leave off the question mark.  

 

If people really want to get confused, in Japan, they still size fluorocarbon using PE#(2.5) 

No thanks I’m confused enough here on domestic soil 

[Deleted account]

PE is the Japanese deity of currency exchange (and weaving)...

[bulldog1935]

1 hour ago, TnRiver46 said:

No thanks I’m confused enough here on domestic soil 

You think you're confused, try filling a reel spool using pound-test.  

All the USM suppliers are more confuseder than you are.  

 

But everything works when the common measurement is silk thread sizing scale.  

[TnRiver46]

37 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

You think you're confused, try filling a reel spool using pound-test.  

All the USM suppliers are more confuseder than you are.  

 

But everything works when the common measurement is silk thread sizing scale.  

Thank goodness for eagle claw monofilament! 

[Lead Head]

The super sharp rocks I fish on the bottom force me to retie often. Straight FC would get low on my spool and have me replacing it far too often. Straight braid will cut way too often. My compromise is braid to leader on all bottom contact presentations. I get the most out of a spool of FC this way, and save a great deal of money. Over time, I have become supremely confident in braid to leader, it just works for me.

 

 

[stratos4me]

Facts about braid:

 

1. Braid is the best handling line.

2. Braid is the furthest casting line.

3. Guys in Australia catch 1000# marlin on braid to 40# topshot. Those systems have four knots including braid to mono. With the proper knot for the application, leader knots are a non-issue.

4. New fluorocarbon leaders incorporate stretch similiar to mono.

5. Depending on conditions, braid is often more visible than other lines...but not always.

 

I hated spinning reels until I moved to braid. No memory means no headaches. I still catch lots of fish.

 

 

 

 

[MontclairDave]

On 2/3/2023 at 10:13 PM, mcipinkie said:

I use braid and leaders for everything, all the time.  I don't use fluro for a leader.  Makes no sense here in western Missouri.  Water is not that clear as to need the FC for that reason.  Trilene Big Game; 6 to 25 lb. test.

 

I don't believe the stretch in a 4 to 10 ft long leader of Big Game is enough to matter.

 

I like Randy and have a learned a lot watching his videos, but I disagree with him on this one.

 

Maybe at Table Rock, Bull Shoals, or up north in really clear water, it would be worth it to use FC, but then only for a leader.  I doubt fish are going to be spooked with a 25 ft. long leader.

 

 I spat the FC Kool-Aid out a long time ago at the same I spit out the tungsten cup cakes.

 

But then again it's a head game.  If you think FC helps you catch fish, it does.

Great reminder that FC not really needed for braid-to-leaders in dirty water, which is what I fish in most of the time and use FC leader because I have drunk the Kool-Aid! Having said that, my line-to-leader knots never fail (Alberto) so I’ll keep using FC until my spools run out. Then I’m definitely gonnna try mono leader because knot to lure may be a bit easier and more reliable. And of course mono is (mostly) cheaper. (But there’s the expensive mono Kool-Aid rabbit hole I’ll probably go down ?)

On 2/7/2023 at 9:51 AM, waymont said:

90% of Randy Blaukat's are like a broken record.....endlessly repeating the same stuff.

I really liked his vids…. until I didn’t. He can be kind of opinionated and old-school. But there’s some very insightful stuff sprinkled in. Matt Stefan, a partner of his in some stuff, is SO much better—very generous with his learned wisdom and NO attitude or ego.

[MontclairDave]

8 hours ago, Lead Head said:

The super sharp rocks I fish on the bottom force me to retie often. Straight FC would get low on my spool and have me replacing it far too often. Straight braid will cut way too often. My compromise is braid to leader on all bottom contact presentations. I get the most out of a spool of FC this way, and save a great deal of money. Over time, I have become supremely confident in braid to leader, it just works for me.

 

 

Just curious if this is your approach for spinning only or also for baitcasting? I do braid-to-leader for both but want to play with straight FC on baistcaster for cranking, maybe a few other applications. 

[Lead Head]

I use a leader on both. Actually, I just built 2 new rods, and it appears I will be able to eliminate spinning reels completely. I currently use 40lb braid to 20 or 25lb FC for jigs, and 30lb braid to 14 or 16lb FC for almost everything else. Exceptions are straight braid for frogs, mono leader for others topwater, and 1 cranking setup that is straight FC. 

 

 

 

[padon]

On 2/7/2023 at 12:20 PM, Boomstick said:

Alright, I have a split opinion on this matter. And keep in mind it's only an opinion and I'm an ******* so do with that what you will.

 

For light line finesse spinning applications, I will always use a leader. The fluorcarbon will sink which helps keep my line straight, and in some cases mono may be useful also because it floats.

For casting presentations, I generally use mostly straight fluorocarbon or mono. But when I do use braid, it's for throwing frogs or punching mats, at which point adding a leader is adding a weak point to a line that I want to be strong, so it is not buying me anything.

pretty much my phylosophy also.

[ska4fun]

On 2/8/2023 at 2:16 PM, roadwarrior said:

 

 

PE, or polyethylene, is the raw base material that braid is made out of, and there are misconceptions that only the expensive Japanese companies use true PE. This isn't true; all braids are PE but the quality of the base material differs greatly, as does the way in which the yarn is made.

I believe the way the filaments are treated is the main difference between high-end and cheaper braided lines.

[ATA]

There is a video of glenn talking about different combo for any lure and in there he explaining the line, Sometimes you need to use strait flour sometime bstraight braid, Sometime your rod dictate the line, Because it is heavy for application and you need to use mono for a GIVE, So there is sometimes you need to use braid to leader and length of leader is depend on water clarity. So there is so many thing involve in that subject and you never can say braid to leader forever.

Right now I have combos using braid to leader and I have combos that strait fluoro and each of them have time and place and lure to be use.