krisjack69 Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 I don't do a lesder. I only use the mainline. 1 1 Quote
Super User Jar11591 Posted February 4, 2023 Super User Posted February 4, 2023 Interesting….I disagree with most of what’s in this video. I have no idea if the pros are using braid to fluoro, and I don’t care. I don’t follow the pros really. And that is not why I choose to do it. For me the decision to use braid to fluoro for the couple applications that I do is very easy. 5 Quote
padon Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 didnt watch the video, dont need to. i use braid to flouro on 80% of my spinning tackle and its always worked fine for me. 3 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted February 4, 2023 Super User Posted February 4, 2023 I would say that at one point I was in the same opinion as Randy but after years of fishing either straight braid, mono or fluorocarbon, I have come to like using braid to leader on spinning gear and even BFS gear. It's not because it's popular or if the pros are using it, its because I have been catching more fish with it and it's now what I have confidence in. I had one leader knot failure last year and that leader was tied on for months. I bent more hooks on braid to leader than anything else. Is it perfect or the best for every situation?.. no way. In the lakes I fish it works really well and this is something experience and time on the water have taught me, not videos or opinions. 2 Quote
JustALineWetter Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 I started the vid, just to see what the 'hype' was about...saw it was Randy...stopped the vid. Certain techniques I go straight braid, but most of the time I've got a leader on. 4 2 Quote
mcipinkie Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 I use braid and leaders for everything, all the time. I don't use fluro for a leader. Makes no sense here in western Missouri. Water is not that clear as to need the FC for that reason. Trilene Big Game; 6 to 25 lb. test. I don't believe the stretch in a 4 to 10 ft long leader of Big Game is enough to matter. I like Randy and have a learned a lot watching his videos, but I disagree with him on this one. Maybe at Table Rock, Bull Shoals, or up north in really clear water, it would be worth it to use FC, but then only for a leader. I doubt fish are going to be spooked with a 25 ft. long leader. I spat the FC Kool-Aid out a long time ago at the same I spit out the tungsten cup cakes. But then again it's a head game. If you think FC helps you catch fish, it does. 7 Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted February 4, 2023 Super User Posted February 4, 2023 When Randy first started his channel I enjoyed it. No frills. Just straight up fish talk. But it's morphed into a satire account. I'll tune in sometimes just for comic relief. 2 1 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted February 4, 2023 Super User Posted February 4, 2023 1 minute ago, NorthernBasser said: When Randy first started his channel I enjoyed it. No frills. Just straight up fish talk. But it's morphed into a satire account. I'll tune in sometimes just for comic relief. Same. When he shares his knowledge of fishing, he has some solid info but when he goes on a rant about something, like line, it comes down to a reason he lost a tournament or money. Personally, I have lost more tournaments (the weekend warrior kind) than I have won and they were not because I lost one fish at a single moment. It was because I was probably doing the wrong thing all day long. 5 Quote
DaubsNU1 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 I really like fishing my bright yellow 10lb braid to 8lb FC on spinning gear. @mcipinkie makes a good point, I could probably switch over to mono here in Nebraska. Alberto knot has served me well...more likely to break off at the lure. I do enjoy Randy's videos...informative. And he "gets it" when it comes to marketing himself. More clicks = more revenue for Randy. Good for him. I'll keep braid to FC on my spinning gear, and keep fishing straight braid on all my casting gear. I'm not chasing tournament wins... 2 Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted February 4, 2023 Super User Posted February 4, 2023 Gerald calls Randy a... 1 1 5 Quote
krisjack69 Posted February 4, 2023 Author Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, JustALineWetter said: I started the vid, just to see what the 'hype' was about...saw it was Randy...stopped the vid. Certain techniques I go straight braid, but most of the time I've got a leader on. What do you have against Randy? 1 hour ago, PhishLI said: Gerald calls Randy a... Yeah I don't have a problem with forward facing sonar. It is just another tool to use. I do not agree with Randy on that but I do agree with the line. It really makes sense. I never used a leader but if others do great more power to em. Quote
Dogface Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 2 hours ago, JustALineWetter said: I started the vid, just to see what the 'hype' was about...saw it was Randy...stopped the vid. Certain techniques I go straight braid, but most of the time I've got a leader on. Same here. Just another vid of Randy telling us something that's not so. I also use straight braid on some occasions. I have caught enough fish to convince me that it is a non-issue. 1 Quote
Super User GetFishorDieTryin Posted February 4, 2023 Super User Posted February 4, 2023 I agree with some of his sentiments. I cant see braid having a positive effect as far as visibility goes from POV of the fish in comparison with FC. I tightline with lightly weighted small swimbaits all winter. With braid I have the sensitivity to know what that bait is doing on semi slack line. Many times I cant feel the hit because of the slack in the line, but I can feel the extra tension or complete lack of it when I go to feather the bait and I know to reel into the fish. I dont have the same kind of connection with FC. I think FC is better suited for JBs especially in deep water, it gets the bait down a little better and they aren't going to see that line. I fish JBs heavy in the winter and use PE to FC and I can honestly say, I rarely lose a fish. 1 Quote
Susky River Rat Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 If you fish around lots of rocks and touch bottom quite often you need a leader. Period. I use a leader for the sole purpose of this. The braid will fray and eventually snap because of rubbing against rocks. I learned the hard way too. 6 Quote
RHuff Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 I use 8lb fireline braid with 8-10lb leader. I like copoly P-line. The braid gives me the sensitivity and visual benefit to watch my line and the leader is low-vis underwater and has a little stretch to help me fight bigger fish. Best of both worlds. Also, i can put the $20 braid on and it lasts all year and I only replace my leaders frequently. The P-Line runs like $9.99. I’ve caught many good sized fish on this setup when the bite is hard. I don’t feel the need to change the setup because a man says to on a video… Quote
fin Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 I know more people are using straight braid because I get snagged on it more often and end up pulling up 50 feet of braid out of the lake. A lot of lures I find floating in the lake are tangled up in a wad of 65# braid. Unless someone pulls it out, I guess it will be there pretty much forever. I’ve never seen any that’s deteriorated. My three feet of mono leader is the most line I will ever leave in the lake. It always breaks before the braid. 1 Quote
Junk Fisherman Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 lol- I wish all the guys that fished my water followed Randy's advice. On a calm day the water is often so clear you can see the bottom at 20'-25'. 1 Quote
PourMyOwn Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Darnold335 said: If you fish around lots of rocks and touch bottom quite often you need a leader. Period. I use a leader for the sole purpose of this. The braid will fray and eventually snap because of rubbing against rocks. I learned the hard way too. Agree 100%, there's a ton of rocks in lakes I fish in New Hampshire. Getting a jig hung in rocks on straight braid is no fun either. Especially when it's my buddy in the back of the boat who does it.... 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted February 4, 2023 Global Moderator Posted February 4, 2023 27 minutes ago, PourMyOwn said: Agree 100%, there's a ton of rocks in lakes I fish in New Hampshire. Getting a jig hung in rocks on straight braid is no fun either. Especially when it's my buddy in the back of the boat who does it.... Rocks? Where? unless it’s shark braid, it always breaks where I fish. Great for topwater tho 1 Quote
PourMyOwn Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 1 minute ago, TnRiver46 said: Rocks? Where? unless it’s shark braid, it always breaks where I fish. Great for topwater tho My "co-angler" can't seem to get it to break. He must be throwing 50lb braid on his reel, ?. Up here I only go straight braid when fishing slop for largemouth. Quote
ska4fun Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 I use fluoro leader because I fish very aggressive fishes, in rocky waters and with ultra thin braided lines, with lacking abrasion tolerances... Without it my braided gets struck in the treble hooks too. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted February 4, 2023 Super User Posted February 4, 2023 2 hours ago, TnRiver46 said: Rocks? Where? unless it’s shark braid, it always breaks where I fish. Great for topwater tho The bottom looks just like this, too! 1 Quote
waymont Posted February 7, 2023 Posted February 7, 2023 90% of Randy Blaukat's are like a broken record.....endlessly repeating the same stuff. 1 Quote
Tatulatard Posted February 7, 2023 Posted February 7, 2023 You're not a good looking woman. Don't point the camera at your face while you tell me about fishing things. Point the camera at the table and leave it there. Quote
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