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I love fishing a frog, but I feel I may be missing some fish once it gets to open water.

 

This has likely been asked before, but is a loop knot used when you want to walk a frog?

For a few seasons, I've been attempting to walk a frog, once it clears the vegetation, back to the boat. Is it all in what knot, or frog is used, or am I missing something? 

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No loop knot , it’s more about the frog and technique I feel 

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I still use a palomar knot, but walking a frog requires a much more subtle twitch of the rod for me. Almost as if you're just trying to shake the line without moving the bait at all. 

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Dean Rojas  video Walking vs popping a frog. table Rock TW video Dean shows how to walk the frog.

Tom

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Tie the same knot you always do and go practice with a popping frog in open water. All your doing is making small twitches on slack line. It takes a little practice before you get the rhythm down. 

 

 

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It will be easiest to learn with a pointy nose frog that doesn’t sit too deep like a spro bronzeye.  It’s also not going to walk quite like a spook or other streamline hard bait. There’s a lot less glide to it so you have to go light on the twitches. Other than that it’s practice. 

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2 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

No loop knot , it’s more about the frog and technique I feel 

 

Agreed. Palomar or bust for frogging. I'm not amazing at it, but for me it's a much (much) softer rod twitch than walking something like a spook, it doesn't take much to get that frog to spin around. I also prefer a deeper keel on the frog, but I'm not sure if that's just in my head. Something like the Bully Wa II walks easier than a Pad Crasher for me.

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I had the same issues, some frogs don't like to walk, I'm no pro and tried the loop knot but it seemed to catch grass more than normal knots.. ended up just being because it was just a bad quality frog

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Well, I see what my biggest problem is; I was attempting to walk it like a Spook. I've been using walking topwaters for decades and just assumed you'd work the frog the same. 

Thanks all.

BTW Tom, I did check out that video. ?

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10 hours ago, NJBasstard said:

All your doing is making small twitches on slack line

 

That's the key ?

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Using a regular knot is fine, but as stated already, it's very light twitches. Basically twitching is just enough to tighten up slack and then immediately reverse the rod tip and give the line slack. If you don't, it won't allow the frog to continue to turn so it will basically pull the bait back straight and it won't walk.  

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Some frogs definitely  walk better then others. To me walking a frog is almost like walking a Pop-R. Little twitches.  And then open water comes well for me a different  frog normally then a matt  frog. Want something a little lighter and longer. For instance wouldn't use a Spro Bronze eye shad to fish matts,  but sparse cover definitely.  Walks good just not a great matt bait. Only one I use for both are old Snagproof Ish frogs that aren't made anymore. Yeah you can buy  the new Phatt frog but not the same as the old.

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Might want to see this...

 

 

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I normally throw frogs into HEAVY slop where walking the frog is a pointless exercise.  Occasionally I will come onto a stretch of lily pads or grass or something that isn't ideal for a frog but also isn't ideal for a spook or other treble-hooked baits.  In that case, I will throw a frog (usually a Pad Crasher) that I have cut the legs OFF of.  Now you have a spastic morsel that will raise a ruckus and is pretty easy to walk.  Pad Crashers are cheap and behave great like this.  Try it!

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You can use a snap in place of a loop knot if your bait is big enough to support the weight. I have had good luck walking 1/4 oz poppers that way. But I usually tie direct because I fish micro top waters like micro frog, teeny pop r, cricket hopper, etc. 

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As Aaron said. Softer twitches than with a spook. And a good amount of slack line. 

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And as suggested, try changing the frog out.  I keep finding frogs, so I haven't bought one in years and I don't entirely know what brands I have.  But I do know that some of them walk pretty easily, and others almost can't be walked.  I have one that seems to want to hop out of the water more than anything.  It sits in the water with the nose pointed almost straight up and the underbelly is shaped like a boat.  

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Hands down best walking frogs I've found.

1. Deps Slither K

2. Spro Bronzeye Shad

3. Snagproof Phat Frog

 Have some others  I use but those 3 get it done and rate in that order,  no skirt trimming needed.

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Knot doesn’t matter, it’s all in your presentation as was said. 
 

If you twitch the right amount considering the weight of the frog you’re using on a slack line, you can get any frog to walk in place. 
 

Just takes a little practice as each time you change something your technique may need to be tweaked just a little. 
But the premise always remains the same. 
 

 

 

 

 

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For me, it's all about having that perfect amount of slack in the line.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 2/7/2023 at 11:45 PM, gulfcaptain said:

Hands down best walking frogs I've found.

1. Deps Slither K

2. Spro Bronzeye Shad

3. Snagproof Phat Frog

 Have some others  I use but those 3 get it done and rate in that order,  no skirt trimming needed.

Same experience here with the Slither K. By far the easiest frog to walk for me personally. Keeps me from actually developing good frog walking skills with other frogs. Hard to use anything else in it's category/size. 

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i heard simply flexing the pinkie finger will move the rod enough to walk a frog.  i dont know what i do, while i am sitting at my desk.  i just kinda do it.  

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