Is 8-strand braid more prone to fraying than 4-strand?

[fin]

I thought the opposite was true, but I’ve been using 10# Suffix 832 for the past year on two rods and I’ve been getting a lot of fraying. I never had that experience using 10# PowerPro. I’m using the same rod/reels and fishing the same places and methods. I do fish on riprap a lot, but I always have.

[Bankc]

I think Power Pro has a thicker coating.  So it tends to fray and fade less than 832.  I don't think the number of strands really affect the fraying.  

[GetFishorDieTryin]

It depends on the characteristics and qualities of the line.  Thicker wiry braids like OG PP or V2 (to an extent) take a longer time to get "ropey," where a more forgiving wispy line like J braid or TCB fray a little faster.  IME 4 carrier braids don't seem to resist it a little longer, but once they do start to fray the strength of the line is significantly compromised where a good 8 carrier doesn't seem to have the same kind of loss of breaking strength.  Again in my experience the coated lines seem to more susceptible to fraying.  It doesn't take long for that coating, whether its just a waxy film or Teflon to completely wear off and once that happens it doesn't take long to notice the outer fibers starting to fray.  

[Johnbt]

"832"

 

My hands stay rough enough that just tying a knot with 832 will fray it. I've tried, and still own, 10# on up. It's fishes okay, just looks like heck.

 

[padlin]

I thought 832 was supposed to fray less too, bummer if true, I just bought some.

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

No

[FishTank]

I have used 832 off and on over the years and it frays more quickly than most lines but even frayed, it's still pretty good. Its not good around the sharp rocks I fish and it's almost unusable around wood. I do however like it for topwater and in heavy vegetation. I have since moved on to different lines. 

[fin]

I've only had one instance where it broke, so maybe it doesn't affect the performance too much. It doesn't increase my confidence though. I thought maybe it was just me. Good to know.

 

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Sufix® 832® Advanced Superline® is the strongest, most durable small diameter braid on the market. R8 Precision Braiding and fiber technology provides superior strength, roundness and line consistency. 832 Advanced Superline has 8 fibers (7 HMPE fibers plus 1 GORE® Performance Fiber) and 32 weaves (pics) per inch. GORE® Performance Fibers improve abrasion resistance, increase casting distance & accuracy and reduce line vibration. HMPE fibers provide high strength & sensitivity, hydrophobic water-repellent protection and small diameter.

 

[Bankc]

Yeah, it's probably still fine.  I'll continue to fish 832 long after it turns grey and fuzzy.  It gets softer and more flexible as it ages, and I kind of like that.  

[ska4fun]

Way more! I use 8x only for trolling.

[gulfcaptain]

Well I like Pline's TCB 8 over 832. The 832 was nice,  but faded fast, and yes frayed as well as powerpro's version of 8 carrier. The coating on the Pline seems to keep  the line better condition, have had some reels for 6+ years with the same line where had to replace the 832 after a 2 to 3 years.

[Standard]

Most of my baitcasters have been switched over to 832, but in 15#+.  Haven't noticed any fraying even after 2 years with the same line.

[throttleplate]

I use at the dam, see pic, 832 40# and 30# with a snelled 1 1/2 ft fluoro abrasix 20# and 30 # leader.

I catch alot of different species of fish by casting behind the concrete blocks and dragging the line and lure over the top of the block or around it.

The 832 gets scruffed up and i watch it all day but never have i had to cut a section out untill i get home and get ready for next trip. The flouro gets scruffy and i will replace often with new snelled leader.

[dodgeguy]

832 is extremely abrasion resistant in real life. I fish it over rocks on crankbaits with no issues. Vicious no fade braid is supposed to be good also

[bulldog1935]

Jun Sonada used to make a big deal about the FEP-coated PE braids vs. hard uncoated PE braids, dividing them between spinning and casting, respectively. 

Power Pro was in his list of uncoated lines. 

He stopped doing that as harder FEP-coated braids became the standard. 

 

 

[GetFishorDieTryin]

21 hours ago, gulfcaptain said:

Well I like Pline's TCB 8 over 832. The 832 was nice,  but faded fast, and yes frayed as well as powerpro's version of 8 carrier. The coating on the Pline seems to keep  the line better condition, have had some reels for 6+ years with the same line where had to replace the 832 after a 2 to 3 years.

I really like TCB for spinning gear far more then 832.  I actually broke brand new #15 TCB 10" above the an Alberto knot I had gloved up to tighten.  Not sure what happened, but thats the only unforeseen issue Ive had with it.  After heavy use it loses its shape and strength, but by that time the line has frayed so bad any failures should be on the angler for neglecting to trim the mainline or flip the spool.  If its on my main spinning reel which sees use all year in FW+SW it lasts roughly a year.  

[The Bassman]

23 hours ago, gulfcaptain said:

Well I like Pline's TCB 8 over 832. The 832 was nice,  but faded fast, and yes frayed as well as powerpro's version of 8 carrier. The coating on the Pline seems to keep  the line better condition, have had some reels for 6+ years with the same line where had to replace the 832 after a 2 to 3 years.

I use TCB 8 10# on a couple of my spinning rigs and like it a lot. Long casting and extremely quiet.

[fin]

Here's a pic of some of the 10# Suffix 832 line I trimmed off. One year old, trimmed off about 50' or so. I've been through a lot of PowerPro, and a few other brands and never seen any fraying like this. I'm not badmouthing the line, it's been good except for this one issue. I've only had one break, usually my 10# Trilene leader breaks. After that one break, that's when I trimmed off the 50'.

[T-Billy]

 Interesting how much folks experiences vary with braid. 40# 832 holds up well for me fishing in shale, sandstone, and limestone riprap. It's also my favorite for pitching gnarly wood tangles.

 Fins Infinity has become my braid of choice for chuck-n-wind baits. It's smooth, quiet, and colorfast black.

 I just spooled one of my flippin sticks with 50# Vicious No Fade a couple trips before I hung it up for the year. Initial impressions are good. Smooth, slick, thin, and handles well. We'll see how it holds up come spring.