Last question - what line do I want for 1-3 oz swimbaits/glide baits, and do I need a new reel or can my Curado 200XGK handle it just fine?

[Ohioguy25]

Sorry all the questions, trying to do this right as I don’t want to lose any $75 baits!  Currently running 15 lb seaguar red but had bad experiences with fluro breaking off.  
 

Will this Curado work once adjusted properly or is it going to be difficult casting these heavy baits? Thanks!

[PhishLI]

22 hours ago, Ohioguy25 said:

Will this Curado work once adjusted properly

Yes. Maybe drop in a 6 spd gear set. Easy.

[Ohioguy25]

7 hours ago, PhishLI said:

Yes. Maybe drop in a 6 spd gear set in. Easy.

What line

[NorthernBasser]

20lb Big Game. Cheap and effective. 

[Revival]

17lb Sufix Elite which was recommended to me by @Hammer 4

[Phil77]

Big Game or p -line cxx 15-20#. Your reel will be fine just use a slow steady retrieve. It's a sickening feeling losing an expensive bait, probably why I just stick to 1oz jigs with big paddle tails. In my waters glide baits only really produce right before the spawn, that big jig and paddle tail produce year round for me.

[ATA]

p -line cxx 15 and your reel is perfect.

[ghost]

22lb Sunline Shooter Armilo Defier. Per WRB recommendations. Thanks fellow SoCal!

 

[gulfcaptain]

I use 20lb, little more forgiving and use cxx. Use lob/ underhand side casts instead of trying to bomb it as far  as possible. If you backlash you aren't as apt to watch it break off and fly through the air. If you're gonna throw a lot more bigger baits close to 3oz you probably wanna move up to a 300 size, or at least I would.  You have a little more control with a bigger reel.

[FishTank]

Sunline Defier Armlio 22lb is my first choice. I have also used 25lb Invizx. Both good lines but Deifer seems designed for the job.

 

[Chris at Tech]

At the 20lb line size, I think you’re getting close to the point where that reel may not hold enough line.  

[webertime]

Another vote for Armillo

[Ohioguy25]

1 hour ago, Chris at Tech said:

At the 20lb line size, I think you’re getting close to the point where that reel may not hold enough line.  

So 19 or less?

[Chris at Tech]

25 minutes ago, Ohioguy25 said:

So 19 or less?

Hard to answer because line diameters are all over the place.  I’d just say that when you combine the factors of thicker line, “average” size bass reel and heavy baits that one would generally try to cast far, you’re pushing it.

[PhishLI]

@Ohioguy25

 

You'll be casting from a seated position on a kayak with a 7.5' rod. You can't cast very far in this situation. Your 200K will be fine with .018 line. You won't come close to spooling it. 650 yds of Big Game 20lb costs $10.99, so find out for yourself. If I'm wrong, and I'm not, you won't burst into flames if you take a chance. We're talking about 3 thousandths of an inch difference between .015 and .018. Your K will have plenty of line left after a typical cast and it's an 8spd, so IPT won't be a big issue. BTW, 20lb Big Game is very under-rated. It's remarkably strong. Super knot strength too. I have never backlashed a bait off using it. I have never been broken off either. The Izorline 20lb feels more crisp than BG. A bit less stretch. Another affordable and reliable option.

 

If you're simply itching for another reel, then a Tatula 200 is a good choice for the baits you've mentioned. Its tall spool with its quite small arbor holds a chit ton of line. Not that you'll ever come close to needing it given how you intend to use it. Also, heavier line just flies through the T-Wing, which is a plus.

 

[VolFan]

Tie good knots. I use 15 or 17 lb CXX for the 1-3 oz range. The lighter glides glide much better on a little lighter line.

[Darth-Baiter]

i use 15 - 17 lb flouro. seems fine.  bass hate it tho. 

[PressuredFishing]

Subline super natural 20lb

[Big Hands]

On 1/15/2023 at 2:22 AM, Ohioguy25 said:

Sorry all the questions, trying to do this right as I don’t want to lose any $75 baits!  Currently running 15 lb seaguar red but had bad experiences with fluro breaking off.  
 

Will this Curado work once adjusted properly or is it going to be difficult casting these heavy baits? Thanks!

Since you mentioned $75 swimbaits, I am imagining these baits will generally be closer to the 3 ounce end of the spectrum, correct?

 

I have the Curado 200K and up to around 2 ounces, I have very little concern for the ability of the reel to chuck and wind these baits with no issues. Once you get up around three ounces (remember that 3 ounces is a 50% increase in weight from two ounces rather than thinking it's just 1 ounce more. 

 

Lots of 1 to 2 ounce baits with an occasional 3 ouncer, it'll certainly do well. If you're wanting to throw a lot of 2 to 3 ounce baits, I think a 200 or 300 size Daiwa or a 300 size Shimano would be better.

 

My Curado 200k has a 6.2 gear ratio which equates to 26" (ipt) where as the 200XGK pulls in 36" (ipt). I have to turn very slowly as it is to get my glides to swim the way I like them. A larger ipt makes it easier to take up slack from a charging fish. Name your poison I suppose, but everyone has their own take on that issue.

[Ohioguy25]

10 minutes ago, Big Hands said:

Since you mentioned $75 swimbaits, I am imagining these baits will generally be closer to the 3 ounce end of the spectrum, correct?

 

I have the Curado 200K and up to around 2 ounces, I have very little concern for the ability of the reel to chuck and wind these baits with no issues. Once you get up around three ounces (remember that 3 ounces is a 50% increase in weight from two ounces rather than thinking it's just 1 ounce more. 

 

Lots of 1 to 2 ounce baits with an occasional 3 ouncer, it'll certainly do well. If you're wanting to throw a lot of 2 to 3 ounce baits, I think a 200 or 300 size Daiwa or a 300 size Shimano would be better.

 

My Curado 200k has a 6.2 gear ratio which equates to 26" (ipt) where as the 200XGK pulls in 36" (ipt). I have to turn very slowly as it is to get my glides to swim the way I like them. A larger ipt makes it easier to take up slack from a charging fish. Name your poison I suppose, but everyone has their own take on that issue.

So the 8.5:1 ratio will make it more difficult to work a glide bait properly?

[Big Hands]

1 hour ago, Ohioguy25 said:

So the 8.5:1 ratio will make it more difficult to work a glide bait properly?

 

For me it does. Maybe it's an acquired skill and I just have not fully acquired it yet.

[PhishLI]

8 hours ago, Ohioguy25 said:

So the 8.5:1 ratio will make it more difficult to work a glide bait properly?

It would be harder on a 300 sized reel with a 43 mm tall wide spool where the IPT is much greater, but with the line out on your XG K's 34 mm tall x 25mm wide spool the IPT will be much less. Don't sweat it if you're not down with buying another reel. Try it first and see.

[Ohioguy25]

9 hours ago, PhishLI said:

It would be harder on a 300 sized reel with a 43 mm tall wide spool where the IPT is much greater, but with the line out on your XG K's 34 mm tall x 25mm wide spool the IPT will be much less. Don't sweat it if you're not down with buying another reel. Try it first and see.

Would the loss in IPT through the thicker diameter (P-Line) offset the reel’s natural IPT (8.5:1?)

 

Also what about fluro?

[MN Fisher]

24 minutes ago, Ohioguy25 said:

Would the loss in IPT through the thicker diameter (P-Line) offset the reel’s natural IPT (8.5:1?)

That 8.5:1 ratio won't change - that's the gearing.

The 36IPT will drop by as much as 40% depending on how much line is out - thicker line will increase the curve of the drop...50yds of .025" line will drop the IPT more than 50yds of .018" line will.

[WRB]

I tried to explain the issue using small narrow spools with .018D line. Your reel holds 110 yards of .014D line at full spool. Using .018D line is a significant increase that impacts how much line can be put on your reel spool.

Estimate is approximately 75 yards. After you cast 30 to 35 yards a short cast using swimbaits, you have about 40 yards of line in the spool or nearly 50% smaller spool diameter of line, it’s very small. When you turn the reel handle 1 full turn the IPT will drop 36” maximum IPT at full spool to 18” or less depending how full the is before casting.

With each reel handle turn the lure speeds speeds the. More. Line recovered on the spool until it Reaches maximum IPT. 

The fact reel is strong enough to cast heavy lures isn’t the issue, it’s line capacity changing IPT as the lure is retrieved. 

For the reasons stated several times now smaller diameter line that is strong enough not to loose lures was suggested.

Straight 40#  Braid at .013D would work. My suggestion was Armilo 22# / 015D Mono. 

Your choice, try the .018D it’s inexpensive.

Tom