krisjack69 Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 I mainly fish Ochos, lunker logs floating worms, ned rigs etc with my spinning gear so what line would you put on the reels I have. I have a 3000 FI Stradic and a 2000 piscifun carbon x reel. Atm, I have 10 lbs basix but keep getting wind knots. Wondering if stepping down to 6 and 7lbs would do any better. Or should I use a braid to fluorocarbon leader? I used only mainline thus far. Not very good tying leader knots when I tried in the past. Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted January 11, 2023 Super User Posted January 11, 2023 So you're using 10lb fc which might be overloaded on the reel hence wind knot. Some fc have more memory which leads to the same thing. I use all braid to leader on my spinning gear with either 15 or 20lb Pline TCB 8 to a fc leader which range from 4-15ft lengths. Make sure you're spooling the fc the right way so it lays on the spool as well. Lighter might help with some wind knot issues but it sounds like you might have a little too much line on the spool without seeing it. Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 11, 2023 Super User Posted January 11, 2023 If you have a boat it’s easy to unwind twisted line at the end of you outing. Simple remove everything from the end of your line and drag about 150’ behind the boat at idling speed a few minutes, then while the boat is moving wind the line back onto the reel. This will untwist mono, FC or braid. Using straight FC apply line conditioner to wet the line, FC is water proof and needs water to stick to it helping to reduce memory. .010 diameter mono, copoly and FC is maximum for spinning reels 1000 to 3000 size. Tom 2 1 Quote
Susky River Rat Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 I use 10lb 832 with a heavier florocarbon leader probably about 10ft for pretty much every thing. I run this leader strictly so my mainline does not fray from all the rocks I encounter. I do bottom bounce a lot. Neds, tubes etc. 2 Quote
krisjack69 Posted January 11, 2023 Author Posted January 11, 2023 I don't have a boat and I was very careful in not to over spool it. Just Basix has a lot more memory. Probably the 10lb Basix. Think I may go 6 on one then 8 on another. I don't think I can do leaders with these micro guides on my older Quantum smoke and Micro Magic rods. I have to use mainline unless I learn to tie the FG knot. Quote
Finessegenics Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Braid to leader for sure. Braid is so manageable on a spinning reel and you can stay versatile with a braid to leader setup. I’d go with a 10# braid of your choice, I like plain old Power Pro. You can change up your leader depending on where and what you’re fishing, if it’s a ned you can go with 6#, if it’s a wacky near docks you can have a 10# leader, etc…I highly suggest braid and I encourage you to practice your leader knots! A lot of newer angler or anglers unfamiliar with braid get worried about that leader knot, but if you practice, I promise your line will rarely ever break at the connection knot. I like the Alberto knot. 2 Quote
Hook2Jaw Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Get a premium braided line, it'll last forever. Tie a fluorocarbon or monofilament leader. There are multiple leader knots that are easy to tie, like the Albright. I do that one in the dark sometimes. I generally prefer an FG 99% of the time, but spinning guides are not small. Braid to leader will make your experience much more enjoyable. I recommend Berkley X9 in 10-20# pound test. 10# if you're contacting the bait at the other end, and scale upwards if you're often into visual bite detection. Once the wind gets up, I have a hard time seeing even thicker braid at the end of a long cast and still have pretty good eyesight. Quote
krisjack69 Posted January 11, 2023 Author Posted January 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, Hook2Jaw said: Get a premium braided line, it'll last forever. Tie a fluorocarbon or monofilament leader. There are multiple leader knots that are easy to tie, like the Albright. I do that one in the dark sometimes. I generally prefer an FG 99% of the time, but spinning guides are not small. Braid to leader will make your experience much more enjoyable. I recommend Berkley X9 in 10-20# pound test. 10# if you're contacting the bait at the other end, and scale upwards if you're often into visual bite detection. Once the wind gets up, I have a hard time seeing even thicker braid at the end of a long cast and still have pretty good eyesight. my micro magic and smoke rods both have micro guides so I imagine a knot would have issues since they are small. Quote
thediscochef Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 20# 832 -> 12# invizx ?? the Tac40s I use all have micro guides and it goes through OK. it won't cast as far as straight braid, but it will cast further than any straight FC or mono of comparable strength on the same setup. uni-uni for mono and copoly leaders, alberto for FC. works great. other benefit of braid to leader - neds fall slower with shorter leader Quote
Super User GreenPig Posted January 11, 2023 Super User Posted January 11, 2023 I run 10 lb braid and 6 - 10lb FC or mono leaders depending on the lure, on all my spinning rigs. The Alberto knot is fairly easy to tie and all I use for leaders. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted January 11, 2023 Super User Posted January 11, 2023 In this case, I like braid to leader. I use 16lb Sunline Xplasma and Seaguar Gold Label 8lb for leader. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 11, 2023 Super User Posted January 11, 2023 15 hours ago, krisjack69 said: Wondering if stepping down to 6 and 7lbs would do any better. Yes, it will be MUCH better. Consider some KVD L&L Conditioner as well. Be sure to adjust your drag. 2.5-3 lbs. of resistance is plenty. 1 1 Quote
PotatoLake Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Learn the FG Knot. It’s a PIA at first, but it’ll run through some of your smaller guides. Super strong knot. But it takes effort to master. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted January 11, 2023 Super User Posted January 11, 2023 19 hours ago, krisjack69 said: I don't have a boat and I was very careful in not to over spool it. Just Basix has a lot more memory. Probably the 10lb Basix. Think I may go 6 on one then 8 on another. I don't think I can do leaders with these micro guides on my older Quantum smoke and Micro Magic rods. I have to use mainline unless I learn to tie the FG knot. Leaders suck. I wouldn't use basix on a spinning reel. It's great on casting. On spinning I'd use Seaguar invisx or tatsu in 8 lb test and under. Or you could try Sufix advance mono. Or go straight braid and color the last six feet black 3 Quote
Phil77 Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 Straight braid or mono or copoly. If you want to get frustrated and spend more time dealing wind knots keep using FC. 1 Quote
krisjack69 Posted January 15, 2023 Author Posted January 15, 2023 After watching this video I decided to just stick to mainline and not use a leader. I figured that having two knots would make for two weak spots vs just one. I'll go lighter in line to say 6 lbs. Thanks, everyone for your input. I have also been watching a lot of Bass U videos since they had that 60 days for 1 dollar sale going on. Lots of great info there. I Quote
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