raggydoo Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 I’m looking at purchasing a used boat that has been upgraded with a Lowrance Ghost trolling motor and a couple HDS 12 graphs. I wasn’t necessarily looking for these but they would be nice to have. I probably would eventually upgrade any boat I buy with similar electronics at some point. My question is I’m wondering how much these type of upgrades usually add to the value? The seller is asking a price that is probably $2500 more than it would be without them. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted January 10, 2023 Super User Posted January 10, 2023 A used Ghost runs about that much by itself - add another $800 each for the HDS-12s. Quote
Super User gim Posted January 10, 2023 Super User Posted January 10, 2023 I would say its a reasonable selling price given those additions. I don't know how old the Ghost or graphs are, but have to imagine both are relatively new and most importantly, working properly. If you were to go out and buy a Ghost and two HDS 12 graphs, you'd easily be paying probably $5 grand for them. Quote
InfantryMP Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 I would not be worrying about the extra 2500. The ghost, and graphs alone like mentioned are a lot of money new. If you cannot install yourself, now you are looking at more money added. When I sold my old boat, I increased the price with my ultrex and 3 Lowrance graphs networked together about the same as the 2500 you are facing. Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted January 10, 2023 Super User Posted January 10, 2023 You said Lowrance HDS. What generation 1, 2, or 3 ? That will make a difference in value. 1 Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted January 10, 2023 Super User Posted January 10, 2023 If they're 12's they wouldn't be gen 1's as they only made an HDS 10 and the 12's didn't come out until the 2 touch's came out. Worst case scenario, g2touch 12's would be about $500 or so on the used market and a used Ghost will still be over 2K. If they're newer the prices only go up and I wouldn't bat an eye. 1 Quote
raggydoo Posted January 11, 2023 Author Posted January 11, 2023 Thanks for the replies, this is my first time buying a boat and want to make sure paying extra for upgrades is a good idea. I'm told the graphs are gen 3 but I’m not that familiar with them and need to verify that. 1 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted January 11, 2023 Super User Posted January 11, 2023 Boats are still getting a premium. Unless the electronics are brand spankin' new, they add zero value. The market is what is drawing the premium not the electronics. 1 Quote
raggydoo Posted January 11, 2023 Author Posted January 11, 2023 57 minutes ago, slonezp said: Boats are still getting a premium. Unless the electronics are brand spankin' new, they add zero value. The market is what is drawing the premium not the electronics. So in your opinion do you think a comparable boat without electronics would sell for the same price? Quote
Super User slonezp Posted January 11, 2023 Super User Posted January 11, 2023 Just now, raggydoo said: So in your opinion do you think a comparable boat without electronics would sell for the same price? I sold a 10 year old boat 2 years ago during covid for $4k less than I paid for it new, with antiquated electronics. All I'm saying is it's a sellers market. If you feel the boat is a good buy, go for it. Electronics are no different than computers as they are obsolete at the time they are released. Any electronics are better than no electronics but they do not add value during a "normal" economy. 2 Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted January 11, 2023 Global Moderator Posted January 11, 2023 Look at it as if it were a truck. Take an early 2000’s Silverado, some guy jacks it up, puts big mud tires, enough LED’s to signal the space station, chrome that’ll blind Stevie Wonder, custom paint, and so on. The seller is asking $40k and says “$60k of upgrades”. At the end of the day, you still have an early 2000’s Silverado. 1 Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted January 11, 2023 Super User Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, slonezp said: Boats are still getting a premium. Unless the electronics are brand spankin' new, they add zero value. The market is what is drawing the premium not the electronics. Yep, he can have all his gen 3 units back if he wants. Doubt he will but electronics don't add any value. Trolling motor figure a little. But the value is in the boat as well as you need to be more concerned about the motor on the back of the boat. If that motor is in bad shape don't care about all the rest, just lipstick on a pig at that point. Don't look at the shiny stuff, look at the boat and the motor. Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted January 11, 2023 Super User Posted January 11, 2023 As someone who's been heavily involved in the used boat market, I have to disagree with the last few post about accessories adding zero value. They do not add as much as what they would when brand new, but there is still value added. As the accessories age, that value goes down, but it's not completely gone. Normal market, elevated market, low market, it doesn't matter. 1 Quote
Solution raggydoo Posted January 11, 2023 Author Solution Posted January 11, 2023 Appreciate everyone’s opinions/advice, wanted to give a quick update. I did end up purchasing the boat. Negotiated a lower price that I’m happy with. The boat seems in great shape and the motor has under 30 hours and checks out great. I felt paying a little more than comparable boats I looked at, most of which had more hours and lesser equipment, made sense. 6 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 11, 2023 Super User Posted January 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, raggydoo said: Appreciate everyone’s opinions/advice, wanted to give a quick update. I did end up purchasing the boat. Negotiated a lower price that I’m happy with. The boat seems in great shape and the motor has under 30 hours and checks out great. I felt paying a little more than comparable boats I looked at, most of which had more hours and lesser equipment, made sense. Thanks for the Update and Congratulation on your new rig ! A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User gim Posted January 12, 2023 Super User Posted January 12, 2023 1 hour ago, raggydoo said: I did end up purchasing the boat Be sure to post some photos in the “show your ride” thread. 1 Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted January 12, 2023 Super User Posted January 12, 2023 Congratulations @raggydoo You'll definitely have to show off the new ride on here! 1 Quote
raggydoo Posted January 12, 2023 Author Posted January 12, 2023 1 hour ago, gimruis said: Be sure to post some photos in the “show your ride” thread. 37 minutes ago, WIGuide said: Congratulations @raggydoo You'll definitely have to show off the new ride on here! I’ll have to get some pictures, the dealer is shrink wrapping and storing it till spring. Keeping my fingers crossed for a short winter. Quote
Deephaven Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 Awesome. Ghost and hds combo is going to be sweet. Quote
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