What fluorocarbon line works best for spinning gear?

[Turnkidd]

I'm going to be spooling up a 3000 size Shimano Miravel here soon and I’m planning to use this setup for things like small swimbaits, neds, dropshots, etc. (basically whatever I feel is too small/finessy for my casting setups). I’ve had some trouble previously with line twists when it comes to fluoro on spinning reels (albeit, cheap line), but I like all the advantages fluoro provides. I also don’t really want to use braid to fluoro if possible. Other than Tatsu (I’m a college student, a little out of my budget lol), what fluoro performs best as mainline on spinning gear? Thanks!

[AlabamaSpothunter]

I haven't used all of them, but recently just put 8# Invizx on a Certate 3000, more manageable than mono, amazing stuff.  

 

Worth every penny on a spinning reel.  

 

Buy a spool of the Invizx and do what others preach here, back it with cheap mono, and just top fill 75-100yds of the Invizx, that way you'll get at least two respools off a spool.   About $10 per respool. 

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I never had to use it, will do it next time, but I bought Reel Magic, and others recommend the KVD line treatment, makes a big difference on some lines, but Invizx is so manageable out of the box I didn't fool with it. 

[Bluebasser86]

Can I ask why you're trying to avoid braid to leader? It's by far the best way to go on a spinning reel IMO. 

[Junk Fisherman]

I LOVE Gamma Touch 7 lb for small swimbaits and it has brought in a lot of fish for me even some big stray carp and trout.  I never used it for bottom contact baits so I can't speak to its abrasion-resistance but considering how good other Gamma lines are, I would expect it to be great.  A buddy of mine swears by Gamma Touch 9 lb and he says it is incredibly strong, tough, and still castable but it is kinda thick.  Based on what you want to do, I would go with Gamma 8 lb Touch.

 

Actually, I would do braid to a 6 lb Gamma Edge leader but if you want straight fluoro- Gamma Touch in 8 lb is my recommendation.  Good luck.  

[Turnkidd]

15 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Can I ask why you're trying to avoid braid to leader? It's by far the best way to go on a spinning reel IMO. 

Well, I have no experience tying leader knots and the thought sounds annoying to me. I know most people prefer it though and at some point I should try it.

[roadwarrior]

17 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Can I ask why you're trying to avoid braid to leader? It's by far the best way to go on a spinning reel IMO. 

This is my recommendation, too.  Otherwise,  #6 InvizX. 

[Bluebasser86]

12 minutes ago, Turnkidd said:

Well, I have no experience tying leader knots and the thought sounds annoying to me. I know most people prefer it though and at some point I should try it.

Leader knots aren't very difficult to tie and the advantages of using braid to leader instead of straight fluoro is well worth the trouble. 

[killobet]

FC SNIPER Is also abgood options.

[GetFishorDieTryin]

You would be blown away at how much sensitivity youre missing out on if you switch to braid.  You dont need to tie a PR or FG, an Alberto is easy to learn, to very small and extremely strong.  The uni-uni is a little easier and strong as well, but its a little more bulky.  

If you're set on FC then I would recommend #6 or 8 Invzx.  

[Junk Fisherman]

2 hours ago, Turnkidd said:

Well, I have no experience tying leader knots and the thought sounds annoying to me. I know most people prefer it though and at some point I should try it.

It's not hard to tie a fluoro leader on braid.  An Alberto knot is pretty easy and with some practice at home, you'll get it quickly.  And this is coming from someone who is knot-challenged.  While the FG knot is probably the best leader knot, it is difficult to tie but the Alberto is easy and reliable.   Braid with a leader gives you better casting distance and greater sensitivity compared to straight fluoro.  Plus, the braid will last you a couple seasons while you'll want to replace your fluoro at least once a season.  

[Kdizzle]

If you wanna go just straight flouro, you need to go with a pretty small weight test.  Anything from 6 to 10# should work, but even then I'd lean closer to 6.  Anything over 10 is nearly uncastable on a spinning reel.

 

By the way, put about 70 or 80 yards of a cheap mono on the reel first, tie a connector knot, then fill the reel the rest of the way with whatever flouro you choose.  Saves money.

[MN Fisher]

If you want straight FC for finesse - I'd go with 60-70yds of 6# InvizX or Tatsu with a cheap mono backing.

 

This is the backing I use on my spinning reels - 1850yds of 6# test for $6.49

https://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/zebco-cajun-smooth-cast-low-vis-quarter-pound-spool/0000000294339

 

But for better sensitivity - 10#braid (Sufix 832 or Seaguar Smackdown) with a 6# FC leader is the ticket

Alberto and Albright knots are fairly easy to tie and decently strong, but even a double-Uni would be usable...probably the easiest line-junction knot out there.

 

[LonnieP]

7lb Sniper

[WRB]

37 minutes ago, LonnieP said:

7lb Sniper

?^^^^

Tom

[ATA]

Dont look no more Seaguar InvizX is the best for spinning and depending on your cover Tatsu and AbrazX Best for casting .

[Big Hands]

I fished with 6 lb monofilament for decades and it did the job, but line twist was just part of fishing with spinning gear. Tried fluorocarbon and it wasn’t for me. 

Currently, 10# or 12# braid (tied with an Alberto knot - 7 wraps) to 6, 7, or 8 lb leader is what all of my finesse spinning rods are set up with. By far my favorite way to use spinning gear for the fishing I do. 
 

My current leader of choice is Daiwa Samurai (clear) 7 lb fluorocarbon. It’s performance and bang for the buck works for me with a 200 yard spool lasting a full season at least.
 

Monofilament is a little more forgiving with stretch and knots that aren’t tied somewhat carefully. The stretch part isn’t a big deal to me with longish leaders and light to medium action rods.
 

I start with no less than twelve feet of leader and then tie the on a new leader once it gets to less than five or six feet long. 

[Dwight Hottle]

On 1/6/2023 at 11:04 AM, Turnkidd said:

Well, I have no experience tying leader knots and the thought sounds annoying to me. I know most people prefer it though and at some point I should try it.

 

Just google back to back uni knot. If I can tie it successfully you can as well. You might even know how to tie a simple uni knot. Then you can use braid with a leader. 

[Bird]

20# Berkeley Vanish hands down........ JUST KIDDING.

 

Great advice already, just like to add.

Another advantage of braid to leader is 99% of time I snag and break off, it's at the bait so you still have plenty of leader to retie.

 

I like the Alberto knot and very very rarely have to tie it on the boat, do it at home.

 

Good fishing ?

 

 

 

 

[WRB]

All FC line has more memory the Mono line. 

FC stretch is the same as Mono line.

Bass are not line shy fish like trout are.

Braid with leader requires 2 knots, 1 to join the leader to the braid and another to join the leader to the hook or lure.

FC has weaker knot strength then Mono.

If you manage your line twist using mono or FC by untwisting it after each use no need to use braid with 2 knots to fail.

Uf you can’t manage the line twist or don’t want to make the effort then braid with leader makes sense.

Floating braid on the water surface is a good strike inducator for weightless soft plastics.

Choices, mine are straight 7# Sniper FC and 5# Maxima Ultra Green copoly and TangleFree line condition. Since I no longer have a boat to untwist my line I am back seating I am considering braid ( ugh) with leaders.

Tom

[PressuredFishing]

On 1/6/2023 at 7:24 AM, Turnkidd said:

what fluoro performs best as mainline on spinning gear? Thanks!

Fluorocarbon is stiff and wirey, which can increase distance because it blows off the spool, but by the same token will cause wind knots more often.

 

Are your issues wind knots or line twist

 

Braid  gets worse wind knots if those are your issue.

 

Best bet imo is nylon. 

 

The thinner you go, the farther distance and less head aches you will recieve.  Double edged sword.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Big Hands]

1 hour ago, PressuredFishing said:

wind knots

 

For quite a while I wondered what a wind knot was. . . and then I got one. They definitely suck when you get a good one. 

[Hulkster]

I know its not floro, but If you want strong line that casts well on spinning gear, try 8 or 10 pound test Sufix Siege. its awesome on both spinning and casting gear, which is a rarity for a mono line.

[msgf91]

I use 5 lb sniper on my drop shot reel (Tatula LT) and started switching over to basix for my lower end reels. I used to use P line copolymer because it was easier to manage but the strength was bad. 

I personally would rather deal with line twist over wind knots. One time I must have reeled up a wind knot onto the spool without noticing. So when I went to cast the braid just blew up through all my guides. I was like "hey this extra braid spool comes in handy" *tosses braid spool in trash, puts on FC spool*

[Fishin Dad]

On 1/6/2023 at 9:24 AM, Turnkidd said:

I'm going to be spooling up a 3000 size Shimano Miravel here soon and I’m planning to use this setup for things like small swimbaits, neds, dropshots, etc. (basically whatever I feel is too small/finessy for my casting setups). I’ve had some trouble previously with line twists when it comes to fluoro on spinning reels (albeit, cheap line), but I like all the advantages fluoro provides. I also don’t really want to use braid to fluoro if possible. Other than Tatsu (I’m a college student, a little out of my budget lol), what fluoro performs best as mainline on spinning gear? Thanks!

If you want to save money, braid to fluoro is the way to go.  Not to mention sensitivity, line management, and all the other benefits.   Braided mainline will last years as will the spool of fluoro as you only use 8-12 FEET per re-tie.   Connection knots are really easy with all the videos out there.   I maybe get 1 wind knot per season and I fish 5 days per week.   

[APK62]

Seaguar Invizx . Also on the topic with line twist. Watch Glen's video. If you take care of FC line it will last and have no issues.