Use of FC tippet with braided line?

[Rolf Marsh]

I have setup my Daiwa BG 2500 spinning reel with 20# Low Vis Sufix 832 braid; I think I need to add a FC leader and FC tippet to this line.  I have read that if I'm using a FC leader I should not use a FC tippet.  Is this the current thinking?  If so, can someone please tell me why?

If not, am I going in the right direction as far as my setup?

 

Happy New Year to all... 

[MN Fisher]

Knots with FC are problematic as it is - tying FC to FC is just asking for trouble.

[Team9nine]

Sounds like this is a spinning outfit, not a fly outfit. No need for tippets with spinning, just leaders (and those are even questioned by many - lol). A more advanced 'fly guy' can come along and explain better or correct me, but with flies you need that step down in line diameter via leaders and tippets to help transfer power from the line to the fly in order to cast properly. With spinning, the lure has the 'weight' or 'power' and just carries the line with it. As such, no need to have that decreasing diameter (or the additional knots).

[Deleted account]

Why do you feel you want a leader AND a tippet? You can certainly do it, but I can't imagine why you'd want to. Step down the braid, and use a leader the test of the tippet, but again, why?

12 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Knots with FC are problematic as it is - tying FC to FC is just asking for trouble.

 

FIFY.

[Fallser]

Almost sounds like you're fly fishing and over thinking it.  I'm not sure why you would need a tippet with a fluorocarbon leader or even a fluorocarbon leader with a spinning rod.  Bass aren't what you would call leader shy.  I use braid on my spinning reels, when I'm casting lures, and I just tie the braid directly to the lure.  The bass don't seem to notice.  

So you're using 20# Low Vis Sufix 832 braid, according to what I found on line, it has a diameter equivalent to 6# mono.  That means you would have to use 6 pound fluorocarbon for your leader in order to have any chance of knotting the braid and fluorocarbon together. It can be done with different knots.  I wouldn't recommend it if you want to keep your sanity.  A tippet would have to be even lighter, 4# or less.  I'm not very sporting when I fly fish for bass I use a 25# fluorocarbon tippet.

Do you really want to fish for bass with a 6 pound leader and a 4 pound tippet?

[Blue Raider Bob]

Another vote for going straight braid. I just use a smaller diameter low-vis green braid and tie directly to lure. Don't know if it makes me catch less but I eliminate two knots from my setup and that makes me more confident I can land what I do hook.

[Susky River Rat]

The only reason I run a braid to FC leader is because I rub against rocks and bottom a lot. I was fraying my braid and losing fish/jigs. I run 10lb 832. 

[PressuredFishing]

From my understanding from fly fishing Tippet (1x 2x 3x 4x 5x) is simply just a leader material that costs more than normal lines because it  is consistentand more accuratley the same diameter based on the x size accross all brands. This is important for fly fishing when repairing, building, and lengthening tapered leaders because the weight of the leader casts the fly, not the lure.  Tippet also tends to have much less memory In my experience snd is generally a higher end nylon or fluorocarbon then typical fishing lines. Yes you can use it as leader material, depending on. What you want, sadly the U.S market has terrible leader options compared to jdm market, 

 

Tippet is also similar to jdm line, and is not grossly overrated like usdm lines, bexause a third party verifys the diameter. so 3x tippet used commonly for size 14 nymphs and dries, is advertised as 7.5lb line which you would think is thick for trout, but feels more like 6lb sunline line or 4lb izorline.

 

A good stretchy stiff floro leader material is red label or yo zuri hybrid.

 

[Rolf Marsh]

Darnold335:  make perfect sense to me... thank you for the response

[PaulVE64]

The OP isn't fly fishing with a 2500 BG reel.

 

Tippet makes great leader off braid. Typically tippet is just a stiffer formula of (mono or fluoro) line. It's also more expensive.

 

Personally I prefer mono because of knotting and abrasion. 

I know, everyone says fluoro is better but I will stick to mono and an FG knot.

[drakesndrum]

Berkley X9 15lb, Seaguar Basi-X 12lb leader, FG knot.  Works like a champ.  The knot is time-consuming but when I do get snagged I usually break off at the lure and not the leader.  I fish smallies in rivers 99% of the time though, so a FC leader is a must.  I've found Seaguar FC is more abrasion resistant than regular mono which helps in and around rocks.  Your mileage may vary.  Good luck!

Edited January 17, 2023 by drakesndrum
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[jitterbug127]

Straight braid on spinning gear her, and if use a leader its mono. Flouro always seems to make my day more involved in tying knots than trying to catch fish. I can't seem to figure it out.