Umbrella rig rod

[PBBrandon]

I’ve been wanting to try throwing umbrella rigs recently but I’m not sure if I have the right rod for them. My current football jig/flipping stick is the 7’3” HF Daiwa Rebellion and I was wondering if that’s too short for A-rigs. I have a 7.4:1 Curado 200K on it which should be fine but I’m not sure if I should get a longer rod. I have my eyes on the 7’9” heavy Rebellion. Would it be worth it to get a longer rod for A-rigs?

[AlabamaSpothunter]

Mine is 7'9......so I'd say yeah 7'9-8' HF would be superior to your current 7'3 HF  

 

The rod is the key part with these heavy baits, 7'3 sounds awfully short to me, but I only started throwing these baits a few months ago.

[softwateronly]

23 hours ago, PBBrandon said:

I’ve been wanting to try throwing umbrella rigs recently but I’m not sure if I have the right rod for them. My current football jig/flipping stick is the 7’3” HF Daiwa Rebellion and I was wondering if that’s too short for A-rigs. I have a 7.4:1 Curado 200K on it which should be fine but I’m not sure if I should get a longer rod. I have my eyes on the 7’9” heavy Rebellion. Would it be worth it to get a longer rod for A-rigs?

 

23 hours ago, AlabamaSpothunter said:

Mine is 7'9......so I'd say yeah 7'9-8' HF would be superior to your current 7'3 HF  

 

The rod is the key part with these heavy baits, 7'3 sounds awfully short to me, but I only started throwing these baits a few months ago.

 

I have a few years throwing it now, and I agree with @AlabamaSpothunter.  7'5-7'9 is my preferred length.  Casting distance and any rod pumps are much more effective with a little more rod.  

 

scott

[Jrob78]

I would personally get the 7'11" H Rebellion for A-Rigs. The lure rating on that rod makes me think it's more suited to throwing bigger swimbaits, which in my opinion is much better for A-rigs than a flipping stick style rod. Even using lighter jigheads, A-rigs end up being pretty heavy. 

[softwateronly]

I haven't fished the Rebellions but looking at the ratings, the 7'9H would probably feel good with a 3 dummy/3 hook set up, no blades, and 1/8oz heads and probably up to a 3/8-1/2oz center head only.  I throw my light a rigs on either a expride 7'7H or Dobyns 755.  You add blades and or heavier center head, the rod might feel too loaded while fishing.  

 

scott

[WRB]

IROD Gen 3 IRG7104AB is designed for A-rigs.

Tom

[PBBrandon]

4 hours ago, Jrob78 said:

I would personally get the 7'11" H Rebellion for A-Rigs. The lure rating on that rod makes me think it's more suited to throwing bigger swimbaits, which in my opinion is much better for A-rigs than a flipping stick style rod. Even using lighter jigheads, A-rigs end up being pretty heavy. 

Yeah I watched a hookuptackle video where they said that the 7’11” H fishes best on the heavier side of its rating (2-4oz). I’m not sure how much a typical a-rig adds up to but if it says it can throw down to 3/8 then it would probably be a better choice. I was planning on maybe getting the 7’9” for a-rigs and the 7’11” for bigger swimbaits down the road. But if I can get away with just getting the 7’11” and throwing both on it that would be ideal

[Jrob78]

3 hours ago, PBBrandon said:

Yeah I watched a hookuptackle video where they said that the 7’11” H fishes best on the heavier side of its rating (2-4oz). I’m not sure how much a typical a-rig adds up to but if it says it can throw down to 3/8 then it would probably be a better choice. I was planning on maybe getting the 7’9” for a-rigs and the 7’11” for bigger swimbaits down the road. But if I can get away with just getting the 7’11” and throwing both on it that would be ideal

Oh yeah, I would 100% go with the 7'11" then. Let's say you're using 5 1/4oz heads, that puts you over an ounce before you even get to swimbaits, wires or blades. The typical A-rig is definitely over 2 oz. 

 

The Rebellions seem to be pretty stout rods and I'm sure the 7'9" could handle it but if you're planning on getting the 7'11" in the future anyway, just start with it. A-rigs are way better on a swimbait rod than on a flipping stick.

[Junk Fisherman]

I weighed out my A-Rig and it was about 2 oz so I went with a 7'11 Croix Tournament Heavy rod which has a weight range of 1/2 to 2.5 oz.  It handles my A-rigs perfectly and also doubles for punching mats.  Before I used my deep diving cranking stick (BPS Cranking Stick)  which has a weight range up to 1.5 oz.  That rod did surprisingly well with A-rigs.  I've read recently of some pro preferring his big cranking stick for A-rigs.  In terms of length, it is such an awkward cast with an A-rig and you're using such a heavy rod that I don't think you need a nearly 8' rod.  A 7.6 would be fine and the shorter rod might make it easier to cast.    

[T-Billy]

The longer handle of a rod closer to 8' definitely makes casting easier. I've found the 7'10" Shimano SLX H MF to be outstanding and it's not an expensive rod. It handles three 1/4 oz heads fine, but I typically run three 1/8oz and two dummies.

 You don't wanna go too heavy with the rod. I don't think a big swimbait rod is the way to go. Something in the 3/8-1 1/2 or 1/2-2oz ballpark is about perfect IMO.