Luke Barnes Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 I just received some Tokyo rigs in my fishmas box and I'm really excited to try them out. I was thinking, I could add more weight to keep it on the bottom and throw it out deep where the bass may be hunkering down. I see people use swimbaits on them and that's probably what I would do. My thoughts are to use a swimbait and reel it slowly along the bottom. Has anyone tried this in winter for deep bass? Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 20, 2022 Global Moderator Posted December 20, 2022 Winter time is about the only time I've ever caught a fish on one. I like using a creature bait or stick worm though. 2 Quote
Luke Barnes Posted December 21, 2022 Author Posted December 21, 2022 11 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: Winter time is about the only time I've ever caught a fish on one. I like using a creature bait or stick worm though. What kind of retrieve did you use? I was thinking about using a pretty heavy weight to slowly drag the bottom with a craw or rage bug but also a paddletail small as close to the bottom and as slow as I can get away with. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 21, 2022 Global Moderator Posted December 21, 2022 48 minutes ago, Luke Barnes said: What kind of retrieve did you use? I was thinking about using a pretty heavy weight to slowly drag the bottom with a craw or rage bug but also a paddletail small as close to the bottom and as slow as I can get away with. I just drug it, no hops or shaking, just straight, slow pulls. Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted December 21, 2022 Super User Posted December 21, 2022 I like what Bluebasser86 has to say about the winter Tokyo Rig retrieve as bass tend to relate to the bottom more in cold water at deeper depths . Good lure choices also. ... I might also try a ZMan soft plastic craw , StreakZ / Z-Too (straight tail shad) or stick worm on a slow drag & stop retrieve for a little more action on the pause . If you want to use a paddle tail I'd opt for a tighter tail action like a 4" Keitech Easy Shiner ... After that , the other 6 rods you might have on deck for the bottom would be a mop jig with living rubber skirt / Rage Craw trailer, a Gene Larew "Biffle Bug" swing head jig , a C-Rig with a finesse worm or Strike King Zoro / Z-Man ZinkerZ , a Scrounger jig head with a Zoom standard 4" Fluke on the back , an underspin with a Keitech Easy Shiner or straight tail shad like the Z Too or StreakZ trailer and lastly - and lastly a drop shot with a 3.75" Z Too / Streak Z and a short dropper length ( 4" ~ 6") ; 1/4th oz. weight ... *Rotate through those winter set up options and it will be pre-spawn before you know it ! ? 1 Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted December 21, 2022 Super User Posted December 21, 2022 i did okay with a Zoom Finesse worm. i just moved it so slow. it was really the breeze moving my kayak and me just sitting there saying...please please please you bass, please please.....tick! to add. my friend kicked butt with a 3/4 tungsten bullet, and a rage Menace. he was punching with it last summer. that tiny thing slipped thru the weeds cleanly. 1 Quote
PressuredFishing Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 On 12/19/2022 at 11:48 AM, Luke Barnes said: My thoughts are to use a swimbait and reel it slowly along the bottom. That's not a bad thought, I made my own and I really like them near wood, because a dropshot with tag end weight and limp line likes to wrap around limbs underwater. 1 Quote
FrnkNsteen Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 Lindners did a whole episode on the Tokyo Rig fishing it like that. One had a paddletail and the other had a twist tail worm on. They were casting it out and letting it to sink to the bottom, then slowly swimming it along so the weight ticked off the rocky bottom. 1 Quote
bx.versatile Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 Just think of a Tokyo Rig as a short leader drop shot, but you can change weight faster and feel the bottom better. Like all the rigs that have the weight pointing down (Jika, FreeRig, DropShot) tends to drop at more vertical angle compared to using the traditional bullet style weights. Due to this, I feel the baits stays on the bottom better or you can get away with a step down in weight. I've had lot of success using the finesse Tokyo Rig with lighter worms or threading a swim bait through it. You can find couple videos from Wire2Fish with G-Man and Fieder using it. 2 1 Quote
Luke Barnes Posted December 22, 2022 Author Posted December 22, 2022 18 hours ago, Shismano said: Just think of a Tokyo Rig as a short leader drop shot, but you can change weight faster and feel the bottom better. Like all the rigs that have the weight pointing down (Jika, FreeRig, DropShot) tends to drop at more vertical angle compared to using the traditional bullet style weights. Due to this, I feel the baits stays on the bottom better or you can get away with a step down in weight. I've had lot of success using the finesse Tokyo Rig with lighter worms or threading a swim bait through it. You can find couple videos from Wire2Fish with G-Man and Fieder using it. Lots of great advice from many people. All pointing to my original thoughts, it would make a great cold weather bottom rig!! Either ticking the bottom with a swimbait or dragging it with a craw or worm. Either way it sounds super versatile and a great rigging option. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted December 22, 2022 Super User Posted December 22, 2022 First the umbrella, now a bottom bouncer, there is hope for LMB guys yet... 2 Quote
Luke Barnes Posted December 22, 2022 Author Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Deleted account said: First the umbrella, now a bottom bouncer, there is hope for LMB guys yet... Yeah yeah. Haha. I don't get to go out and fish much anymore, so when I do I want to have the best shot at catching that I can. That and I like the talk and back and forth about fishing almost as much as actually fishing. I get to shoot the breeze about fishing everyday on here! But the Tokyo Rig was a surprise in my Fishmas box that got the gears turning. Plus a pack of Powerbait Craw Fattys to use on said Tokyo Rig! 1 Quote
waymont Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 Tokyo rigs are really great coming through any wood/brush cover, and also really great on hard bottoms. Slow dragging them is a very successful way to fish them. In weed and wood cover I like popping them a little, and long drags too. Try them out! I like the Pit Boss, worms, and swim baits. 1 Quote
Woody B Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 I had to google tokyo rig to see what it is. Dang bait monkey. I use a carolina rig is situations where a Tokyo rig might work. I tried a drop shot a couple weeks ago. At the suggestion of a friend I used a nose hooked manns spinner bait trailer for bait. I didn't catch anything but saw several fish hit the WEIGHT on active target. I was kinda bobbing it up and down. I guess the weight looked attractive. Does anyone sell drop shot weights with hooks in them? 1 Quote
@reelChris Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Woody B said: Does anyone sell drop shot weights with hooks in them? I think they're called.. ball head jigs?? 1 Quote
kingmotorboat Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 Yep. Caught a few last week on it and it’s been a go to For me since its release. Mostly for punching till I moved up to Tennessee 3 months ago. They eat the thing here quite a bit Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted December 25, 2022 Super User Posted December 25, 2022 On 12/22/2022 at 12:51 PM, Deleted account said: First the umbrella, now a bottom bouncer, there is hope for LMB guys yet... Bottom bouncer was first thing I thought of when I saw these a few years ago. Tokyo rig has worked ok for me, but I've still been tempted to pull out a bottom bouncer and try it....until I remember that those I have are for walleyes, not bass. ? Quote
Super User GaryH Posted December 25, 2022 Super User Posted December 25, 2022 Work great for me in colder weather. Experiment with the weight for the best for dragging on the bottom. I prefer craws or paddle tails. Good luck ? 1 Quote
Luke Barnes Posted December 26, 2022 Author Posted December 26, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 5:38 PM, Woody B said: I had to google tokyo rig to see what it is. Dang bait monkey. I use a carolina rig is situations where a Tokyo rig might work. I tried a drop shot a couple weeks ago. At the suggestion of a friend I used a nose hooked manns spinner bait trailer for bait. I didn't catch anything but saw several fish hit the WEIGHT on active target. I was kinda bobbing it up and down. I guess the weight looked attractive. Does anyone sell drop shot weights with hooks in them? I saw a thread on here once about using a Ned rig for the weight on a drop shot. Soft plastic and all on a Ned head tied as the weight for a drop shot. Never tried it but it's a cool idea. 1 Quote
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