ska4fun Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, J Francho said: Are you claiming the bait spirals? Sounds fishy to me. No, the line gets off the spinning reel spool spiralling. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted December 21, 2022 Super User Posted December 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, ska4fun said: No, the line gets off the spinning reel spool spiralling. And the guides are designed to even it out so by the time it exits the tip-top, it's shooting out straight. <- been using spinning reels closing on 60 years now. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 21, 2022 Super User Posted December 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, ska4fun said: No, the line gets off the spinning reel spool spiralling. You mean like a bullet? Quote
ska4fun Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: And the guides are designed to even it out so by the time it exits the tip-top, it's shooting out straight. <- been using spinning reels closing on 60 years now. In no way or form, it gets straight after the guides. The concept behind reducing spiral is what led to the fuji low-rider and new concept guides, but even them just reduce the intensity of the spiraling. 14 minutes ago, J Francho said: You mean like a bullet? No. Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 23, 2022 Super User Posted December 23, 2022 The line coming off the spool in coils gathered by the 1st and 2nd guides to help straighten out the “spirals”. The big difference in casting accuracy is the the control during casting motion for me, baiting is a slower motion loading up the rod, Spinning is faster rod snap less control. Tom Quote
Susky River Rat Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 I have one bait caster for jerk baits, walk the dog top waters and spinners. I prefer spinning reels for everything else. I feel more confident and like you feel like I can have better placement. I thing this comes from trout fishing small creeks with my dad growing up. Having to duck through trees get under things and place it right where it needs to be. With a bait caster I’m like a drunk blind folded guy playing darts. On the other hand though I only use bait casters for musky no spinning. I am stupid accurate with that stuff. Why? No clue I guess because it’s heavy stuff it’s much easier to control. 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted December 24, 2022 Super User Posted December 24, 2022 There are no more or less accurate rods or reels, just more or less accurate casters. While the mechanics and specifics are somewhat different for each, (not as much as most folks think) one can be just as accurate with BCs or spinning, and most lures and presentations can be fished effectively with either. 3 1 Quote
Fallser Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 I've fished with spinning gear my whole life. Until I switched over to fly fishing. So I'm accurate with my casts when I use spinning gear. As already mentioned, I can be very accurate when using my fly rod. Not sure why I never tried using a BC though I may have at some point in my younger days. The only thing I've used even close to a BC are the large inshore and off-shore trolling reels. My problem with them was I had to use my dominant hand to reel, and my non-dominant hand/arm to fight the fish. I still use a small lever drag reel for trolling in fresh water with the same complaint. Even when I started fly fishing, most of the reels were right-hand retrieve and I had to get the shop to switch them to left-hand retrieve. At this point in my life, I'm not interested in learning a new trick. I'll leave the BC's to my fishing buddies. Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted December 26, 2022 Super User Posted December 26, 2022 @Fallser - jerk in a spinning cast is rewarded with distance (not necessarily accuracy). Jerk in a fly rod is a tailing loop, and in a baitcaster, it's backlash. So you a load a baitcaster much more like a fly rod, with smooth power. Hopefully, switching isn't necessary - why limit oneself; however, you do find when you take all three, the fly rod is least likely to be taken out. And especially if you have good finesse tackle, the fly rod is mostly redundant. There are places, again, usually in rivers, where fly rod stealth reigns. Can apply to salt marshes and wading skinny flats as well, if you have the skills to load and deliver using a fly rod without hubbub, e.g., 70' on the 3rd stroke. The thing is, good finesse tackle will mostly double that without effort. 2 Quote
Big Hands Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 On 12/19/2022 at 9:07 AM, J Francho said: It doesn't matter what it is, do it long enough and you become proficient. I’d be more inclined to say that practice makes permanent and only perfect practice makes perfect rather than practice makes perfect. My first evidential claim being to observe Charles Barkley’s golf swing. He plays a lot of golf, but his swing is hideous and he’s a far better basketball player than he is a golfer ? Quote
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