Daiwa Tatula CT Noise

[Jmontgomery87]

I recently purchased a lightly used Tatula CT and took it fishing for the first time a few days ago.

 

It functions just fine but I get a whirring noise on the retrieve. It doesn't happen while casting or if I loosen the drag and hold the spool in place while turning the handle. That should eliminate the spool bearings, drive shaft bearing, and worm gear.

 

The rate of the sound seems to match the pinion gear. I've had the reel apart twice to clean and lube. One of the yoke springs was slightly bent but I straightened it out. It almost sounds as if it's rubbing on the yoke but I suppose it could be the gears. I grease pretty lightly so I'm thinking about putting more on to see if that helps. Would replacing the pinion springs maybe help? Any ideas? Forget about it and just fish?

 

You can see the bent spring in the pic. I'm probably just overthinking it.

[garroyo130]

idk what you mean by whirring but i have purchased 4 Fuego CTs and 2 of them made noise. It appeared to be the spool rubbing on the frame. Im not 100% didnt bother figuring it out, just returned them. 

[Tatulatard]

It also could be the anti reverse bearing or the pinion support bearing.  Gears on these aren't exactly buttery smooth or quiet with the plastic side plate but if its more of a scratchy metal on metal sound I lean towards bearings rather than gears.  Gears are more of a cranking under load sensation.  

[FishTank]

2 hours ago, Tatulatard said:

It also could be the anti reverse bearing or the pinion support bearing.  Gears on these aren't exactly buttery smooth or quiet with the plastic side plate but if its more of a scratchy metal on metal sound I lean towards bearings rather than gears.  Gears are more of a cranking under load sensation.  

 

This would be my guess as well. You can test the PS bearing with a pen/pencil depending on the size and for the AR bearing you can put the sleeve inside it and turn it forward.  My experience with Daiwa reels has been that they sometimes add too much grease or none at all. If it feels bad I would clean it and add oil to it. They usually don't go bad on that new of a reel. 

[Eric 26]

3 hours ago, Jmontgomery87 said:

 

Just looking at this picture is giving me heart palpitations ?

[newapti5]

Not sure what kind of whirring noise it is. It could be certain damaged part, or it could just be worn gears and worn bearings, like many other used reels. If it's from worn gears and bearings, usually the noise/vibration would get louder with faster winding or heavier loads. BTW, if the picture is what it looks like after it's re-lubed, I think you should put more grease on. To me, the gears (and other parts) seem too dry/clean.

 

Also, I'd deep-clean all the bearings. Then except for spool bearings and AR bearing, I'd put LIGHT GREASE in other bearings as well, especially the two bearings on the main shaft, and the pinion support bearing. They may not spin that well after that, but it'll dial down a lot of unwanted noise or geary feeling.

 

You mentioned that without load, the main shaft bearings and AR bearing don't make noise. In my own experience, sometimes worn bearings only make noise/vibration while under load. So, I wouldn't rule them out yet. If you have spare bearings, the best way to diagnose is to change all these bearings. If not, grease in the bearing usually helps. 

 

Lightly greased reels still work, but I would expect to feel more vibration/noise; heavily greased reels would be the opposite, but hard to turn the handle.  At the end, it all depends on what matters most to you. 

 

[Jmontgomery87]

Update: The picture was the condition the reel arrived in before I cleaned it. I went back and added some more grease to the gears and deep cleaned the bearings.

 

I noticed a very faint vibration while spinning the pinion support bearing on a pen. I swapped it with the handle side crank bearing. This completely eliminated the noise but there is a very small vibration in the handle now. The pinion support bearing was definitely going bad and I think the extra grease helped smooth things out. I'll get some replacement bearings eventually but for now I'm happy with it.

 

Thanks for the help everyone!