Strike King Red Eye Shad vs Bill Lewis Rat-L Trap

[scaleface]

5 hours ago, TOXIC said:

So, am I reading this right….some of you yo-yo a lipless like a blade bait or spoon?  I have only ripped it through grass or burned it in open water.  I feel like I might be missing a productive technique.

I hop it like a worm and let it settle on a slack line . I fish from an alum boat often and I can hear a rattling or two tap RES tic-tic as its dropping . I can also hear bass smacking it .

[A-Jay]

5 minutes ago, scaleface said:

I hop it like a worm and let it settle on a slack line . I fish from an alum boat often and I can hear a rattling or two tap RES tic-tic as its dropping . I can also hear bass smacking it .

Yup ~ Fishing from my canoe same deal.

Also on the farthest end of the spectrum,

during a week long & Epic RES bite south of the border,

also from an aluminum rig,

our guide was telling us to set the hook . . . .  before we felt the strikes !

Pretty Crazy.

I learned a lot that week.

A-Jay

 

[RB 77]

On 12/3/2022 at 3:45 AM, Revival said:

Out of curiosity,  about the LV 500 do you like more than the RES and Trap?

 

I think I had a few but never had any luck with those things.

 

I feel like it's the most versatile of the 3 for me anyway. I don't like the RES for burnin' and I don't like the Trap for yo-yoin'. I have no problem using the LV for either of those and probably my favorite lipless technique of "stop n' pop" which I love for open water and covering ground. 

[Maxximus Redneckus]

On 12/1/2022 at 1:18 PM, LrgmouthShad said:

I’m just sayin… I don’t like hardbaits as much anymore and I very much dislike treble hooks but when long-time, expert fishermen like @Catt and @Dwight Hottle both have their PBs off of lipless even withstanding how much Catt talks about Texas rigs and jigs and Mr. Hottle’s success with jerkbaits… yeah that just says something to me. I’m gonna keep trying to catch fish on lipless

 

Just now, Stale KracKer said:

 

T rigs nd jigs are the most boring lures to fish. Until you feel that one and only thump...loll.caught my PB on a t rigged manns 8 inch jelly worm topwaters and lipless are my fav to use though ...

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[LrgmouthShad]

13 minutes ago, Stale KracKer said:

T rigs nd jigs are the most boring lures to fish. Until you feel that one and only thump

I’m with ya! Not the most fun… weightless senkos are my least favorite but also something I will lean on to get bites sometimes. 
 

I fished a Texas rig and jig a lot more this year than in years past though and hope to keep that going

[KSanford33]

I personally like the Bill Lewis Rat-L-Trap because their colors used to correspond to the Color-C-Lector I used to have (Google that one kids). But my local Wal-Mart has CC Spots on clearance normally for around a dollar, and I’ll happily throw a dollar bait into cover that I wouldn’t throw a $4 bait with two treble hooks on it. 

[ironbjorn]

RES is usually a complete dud in the same places RLT is slaying for me. Half my RES don't run true and the half that do don't really produce. Very very overrated bait in my experience. RLT is one of my best baits.

[Juankar]

On 3/12/2022 at 14:00, A-Jay said:

IME 'quemar' con éxito un RES, como sobre vegetación poco profunda, por ejemplo, generalmente debe ocurrir a una 'velocidad' algo más lenta que algunos otros cebos de cascabel en el mercado.

Entonces, mientras que la relación de engranajes de los carretes 'importa' un poco, la desaceleración de la velocidad del mango de recuperación también lo es.

Ciertamente, se puede lograr con un carrete de 8.2 o superior, pero es posible que se quede dormido durante la recuperación, ya que necesitará girar el mango muy lentamente.

En mi opinión, hay mejores opciones para quemar que el RES.

Aún así, el cebo funciona bien con una recuperación constante, pero solo necesita ser más lento que otros cebos. 

Por otro lado, The RES tiene un gran shimmy en la caída, uno de los mejores de hecho,

y en mi opinión, aquí es donde sobresale. Por lo tanto, algún tipo de recuperación de parar y continuar puede ser muy bueno en muchas circunstancias. 

Pesco RES con la caña y recojo la línea con el carrete ~ movimiento de barrido moderado en su mayoría.

Quiero darle a ese trato de shimmy incorporado todas las oportunidades para hacer lo suyo. 

De cualquier manera, teniendo en cuenta mi cadencia de arranque de carrete preferida, que es rápida, uso carretes de velocidad 6.3 - 6.6 para cebos sin labios bastante.

Los carretes de hasta 7.3 inclusive (el más rápido que pesco) tienen su lugar, pero este no es uno de ellos para mí.

YMMV

a-jay

Can you tell me the model of those boxes? thank you

[A-Jay]

Box on the left is a Plano 3750.

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Plano_Pro_Latch_Utility_Box_3750_/descpage-PPLUB37502.html

Box on the right is a Plano 3700.

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Plano_Pro_Latch_Utility_Box_3700/descpage-PPLUB3700.html

A-Jay

[Pat Brown]

Caught an 8 lb 11 oz bass on a 6th sense suspending lipless and for shallow ponds it is now my confidence crank.

 

 

Check them out.

 

Between RES and Trap, gonna have to give it to the RES.  Caught way more fish on them but I need to fish the trap more this winter.

[Texas Flood]

Before yesterday I would have said RES but this little fella caught me about 30 fish. Only bait I used the whole day. 
 

Booyah Hard Knocker. 

[Juankar]

Thank you, Sir

[OkobojiEagle]

Very little talk of silent models?

[scaleface]

I prefer a silent model or a one knocker most of the time . My favorite Red Eye Shad is a silent one but the weight has become loose . It has a very subtle knock . 

[OkobojiEagle]

I don't believe the silent red eye shad is being made anymore... am I correct?

[Primus]

The Damiki Tremor is a productive lipless that is offered in a silent version . 

 

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Damiki_Tremor_65_Lipless_Crankbaits/descpage-DTS.html

[Ski]

[Aaron_H]

On 4/22/2023 at 10:02 PM, Texas Flood said:

Before yesterday I would have said RES but this little fella caught me about 30 fish. Only bait I used the whole day. 
 

Booyah Hard Knocker. 

 

I haven't tried the Hard Knocker version yet, but the One Knocker is a favorite for me, and has caught my biggest lipless fish to date (9lb 1oz).

 

On 4/23/2023 at 8:27 AM, OkobojiEagle said:

Very little talk of silent models?

 

The Thunderhawk Sergeant comes in a 1/2 oz silent version, and I like it a lot when they're on that kind of bite. The 3/4 oz rattling version is killer as well.