Super User gim Posted November 27, 2022 Super User Posted November 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, Bird said: Wonder how far OSU will drop and with the other big losses yesterday Every playoff I've seen today does not have them in the top 4 anymore. The top four I see are: Georgia, Michigan, TCU, and USC. OSU will be playing in the Rose Bowl, probably against Washington. If Michigan loses to Purdue in the Big Ten Championship, I think OSU would replace them in the college football playoff and then Michigan would be sent to the Rose Bowl instead. 1 Quote
throttleplate Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 21 hours ago, 12poundbass said: I’m hoping they can start recruiting players that would help Michigan compete with the top SEC teams. need bigger NIL money thrown out there? Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted November 27, 2022 Author Global Moderator Posted November 27, 2022 2 hours ago, throttleplate said: need bigger NIL money thrown out there? I keep forgetting about the NIL. I’m still not sure how I feel about it. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted November 27, 2022 Global Moderator Posted November 27, 2022 4 hours ago, gimruis said: Every playoff I've seen today does not have them in the top 4 anymore. The top four I see are: Georgia, Michigan, TCU, and USC. OSU will be playing in the Rose Bowl, probably against Washington. If Michigan loses to Purdue in the Big Ten Championship, I think OSU would replace them in the college football playoff and then Michigan would be sent to the Rose Bowl instead. But………. Michigan whipped OSU like a step child. The committee can’t unsee that 1 hour ago, 12poundbass said: I keep forgetting about the NIL. I’m still not sure how I feel about it. They were getting plenty of cash before anyone invented the acronym NIL 1 Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted November 27, 2022 Author Global Moderator Posted November 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: They were getting plenty of cash before anyone invented the acronym NIL This is true. 1 Quote
Super User gim Posted November 27, 2022 Super User Posted November 27, 2022 42 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Michigan whipped OSU like a step child. The committee can’t unsee that But if Michigan loses to lowly Purdue, they both have 1 loss. Losing to Purdue is worse than losing to Michigan. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted November 27, 2022 Global Moderator Posted November 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, gimruis said: But if Michigan loses to lowly Purdue, they both have 1 loss. Losing to Purdue is worse than losing to Michigan. But one team IS Michigan Quote
Super User gim Posted November 27, 2022 Super User Posted November 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: But one team IS Michigan Michigan is a much higher quality team than Purdue. So losing to them does not affect OSU’s rating as much as a loss to Purdue would. It’s simple math. I don’t think the computer takes head to head matchups into account. It is looking at quality of wins and losses. That’s why teams in the SEC are generally higher ranked even if they have more losses. Will probably be a moot point anyways because Michigan is unlikely to lose to Purdue. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted November 28, 2022 Global Moderator Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, gimruis said: It’s simple math. Alas, more simple math. Michigan 45 OSU 23 if they don’t take head to head matchups into consideration, then why is there a playoff? Does the loser of the championship game deserve to be the champion because the head to head matchup isn’t important? Quote
Super User gim Posted November 28, 2022 Super User Posted November 28, 2022 29 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: if they don’t take head to head matchups into consideration, then why is there a playoff? As far as I can tell, head to head results do not have a bearing on a teams final ranking UNLESS it was in a championship game…like a conference championship. So in other words, if a trophy is on the line, then it matters. For example, if LSU and Georgia were both undefeated or each had 1 loss, the winner of the SEC Championship would have bearing on the selection. Otherwise it’s simply another game/result on a team’s schedule. In the case of Michigan vs Ohio State, it was only a regular season game. It’s also possible that LSU could leap frog both of them even with 2 losses should they beat Georgia. A 2 loss team has never played in the college football playoff. Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted November 28, 2022 Author Global Moderator Posted November 28, 2022 It’s looking like Alabama is going to be ranked above Tennessee (I don’t believe it’s official yet) how does this happen considering Tennessee beat Alabama? Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted November 28, 2022 Global Moderator Posted November 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, gimruis said: As far as I can tell, head to head results do not have a bearing on a teams final ranking UNLESS it was in a championship game…like a conference championship. So in other words, if a trophy is on the line, then it matters. For example, if LSU and Georgia were both undefeated or each had 1 loss, the winner of the SEC Championship would have bearing on the selection. Otherwise it’s simply another game/result on a team’s schedule. In the case of Michigan vs Ohio State, it was only a regular season game. It’s also possible that LSU could leap frog both of them even with 2 losses should they beat Georgia. A 2 loss team has never played in the college football playoff. LSU has 3 losses now the committee has been known to place teams that lost head to head above the team that beat them. I just think it’s totally ridiculous if they have identical records 2 minutes ago, 12poundbass said: It’s looking like Alabama is going to be ranked above Tennessee (I don’t believe it’s official yet) how does this happen considering Tennessee beat Alabama? Because it’s Alabama ? Quote
Super User gim Posted November 28, 2022 Super User Posted November 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: LSU has 3 losses now I missed that 18 minutes ago, 12poundbass said: It’s looking like Alabama is going to be ranked above Tennessee (I don’t believe it’s official yet) how does this happen considering Tennessee beat Alabama? Because Alabama’s body of work as a whole is better than Tennessee’s. Which only proves my point that head to head is not a significant factor in this. I’m not saying that I agree or disagree with it, I’m only saying how it is. Quote
VolFan Posted November 28, 2022 Posted November 28, 2022 Because Tennessee’s 2nd loss is a total domination by South Carolina. Total. Domination. You can’t lose like that and expect to get back in. I relish USC getting demolished if they play UGA. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted November 28, 2022 Global Moderator Posted November 28, 2022 1 minute ago, VolFan said: Because Tennessee’s 2nd loss is a total domination by South Carolina. Total. Domination. You can’t lose like that and expect to get back in. I relish USC getting demolished if they play UGA. Tennessee dominated LSU but that didn’t count because it was a head to head matchup Quote
Super User gim Posted November 28, 2022 Super User Posted November 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Tennessee dominated LSU but that didn’t count because it was a head to head matchup Come on. You really don’t think that’s the case, do you? Of course it counts. It’s a convincing win against a quality opponent. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted November 28, 2022 Global Moderator Posted November 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, gimruis said: Come on. You really don’t think that’s the case, do you? Of course it’s counts. It’s a convincing win against a quality opponent. Apparently all that matters is when you lose, earlier the better. Or of course don’t lose Hopefully the committee has some logic deep down and doesn’t allow Ohio state in over michigan. Because we saw who was better Saturday Quote
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