DanielG Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 So, I've got about $200 for a new spinning reel. I've got some good casting reels but only a low end Shimano spinning reel. I'll be putting it on a Dobsyn medimu/light Fury rod. Bass where I live are 1.5-2 lbs. mostly. Been wanting a decent reel for awhile. I'd appreciate some recommendations. The $200, believe it or not is part of my medicare advantage plan I have with my insurance provider. They authorize a lot of 'healthy recreational' type of stuff. I'm not sure where the fishing reels tie in with backpacks, bikes, and walking sticks but hey... And it's use it or lose it by the end of the year. Thanks in advance. 2 Quote
Super User MickD Posted November 22, 2022 Super User Posted November 22, 2022 Daiwa Tatula LT in the size you prefer. Very smooth, reliable, light so it balances well with most rods.   Off subject, but rod builders out there, don't copy the location of the keeper on this rod unless you've tried it out and like it. I did one once and have disliked it every time I've used the rod. The only thing good about it is that it keeps the lure hooks out of the way of any really long rod sleeves you might use. But it's easy to snag a hand on a lure and it's not as handy as keepers just in front of the front grip/seat. 1 1 Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted November 22, 2022 Super User Posted November 22, 2022 I agree, the Tatula LT would be a great option. 1 Quote
ScottW Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 I’m partial to Shimano spinning reels myself. The NASCI, Miravel or Sahara are all good choices and are at or under $200. I’ve got a Sahara and it’s wicked smooth. 4 Quote
thunderblack Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 I'm listing a like new Daiwa Ballistic MQ 3000 for sale. Great reels. Have another I fish. Stradic is another good one. 2 Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted November 22, 2022 Super User Posted November 22, 2022 Do not pass go, go to Digitaka and buy a JDM Shimano Stradic for under $150, including express delivery.  If fine braid is ever in your sights, no reel manages braid like Shimano worm-drive, and Stradic is entry-level for Shimano worm drive. Calling Stradic entry level is a true hyperbole - the design copies Stella, and all the parts interchange.  and nowhere on this thread does @DanielG ask for a passe optional anti-reverse switch.  No high-grade reel uses an optional A/R switch, and the very best spinning reels don't have auto-bail close.  You use manual bail both to feed line and to retrieve - it prevents every possible line handling problem with spinning reels. 3 1 Quote
Super User MickD Posted November 22, 2022 Super User Posted November 22, 2022 Those buying new spinning reels should be aware that many makers' new reels do not have anti revervse switches. If you want one don't go Shimano, Pflueger, or some others. Check the details before you buy. Daiwas still have the switch. 2 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said: Do not pass go, go to Digitaka and buy a JDM Shimano Stradic for under $150, including express delivery. Does it have an anti reverse switch?  4 minutes ago, MickD said: Those buying new spinning reels should be aware that many makers' new reels do not have anti revervse switches. If you want one don't go Shimano, Pflueger, or some others. Check the details before you buy. Daiwas still have the switch. Does it have an anti reverse switch?  No. If it's important to you, this doesn't work. If it's not, looks like a good buy.  Quote
ScottW Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 My Shimano Sahara has the switch under the reel close to the rotor. It’s the FJ model not the FI which doesn’t have the anti reverse. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted November 22, 2022 Super User Posted November 22, 2022 Both the Miravel and the Ultegra I picked up this year don't have it. Really only necessary if you're a back-reeler Quote
Revival Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 - Shimano JDM Stradic FL - Daiwa Kage LT - Daiwa JDM Tatula LT Â 2 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 23, 2022 Super User Posted November 23, 2022 3 hours ago, bulldog1935 said: Do not pass go, go to Digitaka and buy a JDM Shimano Stradic for under $150, including express delivery.  If fine braid is ever in your sights, no reel manages braid like Shimano worm-drive, and Stradic is entry-level for Shimano worm drive. Calling Stradic entry level is a true hyperbole - the design copies Stella, and all the parts interchange.  and nowhere on this thread does @DanielG ask for a passe optional anti-reverse switch. GREAT deal! 1 Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted November 23, 2022 Super User Posted November 23, 2022 3 hours ago, MickD said: Those buying new spinning reels should be aware that many makers' new reels do not have anti revervse switches. If you want one don't go Shimano, Pflueger, or some others. Check the details before you buy. Daiwas still have the switch. Some don't though. Gotta check beforehand. 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted November 23, 2022 Super User Posted November 23, 2022 3 hours ago, bulldog1935 said: f fine braid is ever in your sights, no reel manages braid like Shimano worm-drive, and Stradic is entry-level for Shimano worm drive. If that's what they've labeled 'Silentdrive'...um, the Miravel has it...new entry level point. Quote
DanielG Posted November 23, 2022 Author Posted November 23, 2022 Right now I'm looking at the Shimano Stradic and the Vanford. Still pondering though. I've got time. So many good reels and features. 1 Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted November 23, 2022 Super User Posted November 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: If that's what they've labeled 'Silentdrive'...um, the Miravel has it Looks like it. https://fish.shimano.com/content/fish/northamerica/us/en/homepage/INFO/TECHNOLOGIES/SILENT_DRIVE0.html Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted November 23, 2022 Super User Posted November 23, 2022 @DanielG Internally, Vanford and Stradic are identical. The main difference is forged aluminum body for Stradic, and CI4+ body for Vanford. Vanford also shares a lighter rotor with Vanquish.  If you notice on Vanford, the stem or knee of the reel is shorter, placing the reel body and rotor closer to the rod.   This is simply Shimano recognizing the limitations of plastic-composite stiffness, and making that choice to give the reel the stiffness they want it to have. Some people have complained about the fit between the rotor or knee bend and their fingers on the rod (three separate threads on BR). Just something to keep in mind - pointing this out will get the standard flurry of detractors, but I don't have a horse in this race, nor a dog in the fight.  The other reel example the OP used on his thread Also happens to be Shimano CI4+ composite body. https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/242520-shimano-vanford-questionissue/?do=findComment&comment=2769297 1 1 Quote
Revival Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, DanielG said: Right now I'm looking at the Shimano Stradic and the Vanford. Still pondering though. I've got time. So many good reels and features. I would have initially said Vanford but it’s more than I thought you wanted to spend at $240.  The Vanford is my favorite spinning reel but at $146, the JDM Stradic FL is the better value. 1 Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted November 23, 2022 Super User Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, bulldog1935 said: @DanielG Internally, Vanford and Stradic are identical. The main difference is forged aluminum body for Stradic, and CI4+ body for Vanford. Vanford also shares a lighter rotor with Vanquish.  If you notice on Vanford, the stem or knee of the reel is shorter, placing the reel body and rotor closer to the rod.   This is simply Shimano recognizing the limitations of plastic-composite stiffness, and making that choice to give the reel the stiffness they want it to have. Some people have complained about the fit between the rotor or knee bend and their fingers on the rod (three separate threads on BR). Just something to keep in mind - pointing this out will get the standard flurry of detractors, but I don't have a horse in this race, nor a dog in the fight.  The other reel example the OP used on his thread Also happens to be Shimano CI4+ composite body. https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/242520-shimano-vanford-questionissue/?do=findComment&comment=2769297 Yeah, I've been forced to hold it so the stem is between my pinky and ring finger. I'm actually starting to get comfortable holding most my spinning setups that way now after years of having it between my middle and ring fingers. 2 Quote
DanielG Posted November 23, 2022 Author Posted November 23, 2022 36 minutes ago, Revival said: I would have initially said Vanford but it’s more than I thought you wanted to spend at $240.  The Vanford is my favorite spinning reel but at $146, the JDM Stradic FL is the better value. Yes $239 compared to $219 for the right size of the other one. I figured not much difference. And $200 is a budget but If i personally have to put in a few to get one I don't mind. Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted November 23, 2022 Super User Posted November 23, 2022 You're giving $70 to the US importer by not buying JDM through Digitaka. https://www.digitaka.com/items/5/4/1/STRADIC - $145, delivered gratis in 4 days. looks like current JDM stock is limited on Vanford. https://www.digitaka.com/items/5/4/1/VANFORD Same same Here's the spec sheet on Shimano JDM sizes USM Shimano Stradic 1000HG-FL in the same JDM reel is '19 Stradic C2000SHG. The table in this link will convert PE# to diameter and equivalent pound-test mono https://www.jpfishingtacklenews.com/japanese-line-size/ 2 Quote
killobet Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 I have one vanford 2500S  on my medium light rod. Really smooth and pretty light. Im actually looking for another spinning reel for my light spinning rod and thinking might get another vanford or better. 1 Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 If you want to buy from a domestic dealer in the US it comes down to 2 reels. The Taula LT or the Stradic FL. You really cant lose, both reels are excellent. If you want a smooth light reel get the Tatula. If you dont mind some extra weight for a little more refinement, get the FL. Both reels retail @199.99 so you would have to wait until thrusday night to get them at the black friday discounted price so including tax they will be under 200$.  You have a similar decision if you choose to buy JDM. Again you have the choice between the Stradic FL, but now you the Vanford is within the budget. The Vanford is essentially a Stradic FL with a carbon composite body, that makes the Vanford considerably lighter then the FL. The FL may feel a little more sturdy because of the AL body, other then that they are pretty much the same reel. I would recommend the Vanford because of the light weight. Thats just my recommendation, but you cant lose with any of these reels. 2 1 Quote
ska4fun Posted November 24, 2022 Posted November 24, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 5:10 PM, DanielG said: So, I've got about $200 for a new spinning reel. I've got some good casting reels but only a low end Shimano spinning reel. I'll be putting it on a Dobsyn medimu/light Fury rod. Bass where I live are 1.5-2 lbs. mostly. Been wanting a decent reel for awhile. I'd appreciate some recommendations. The $200, believe it or not is part of my medicare advantage plan I have with my insurance provider. They authorize a lot of 'healthy recreational' type of stuff. I'm not sure where the fishing reels tie in with backpacks, bikes, and walking sticks but hey... And it's use it or lose it by the end of the year. Thanks in advance. Daiwa Emeraldas LT 1 Quote
DanielG Posted December 3, 2022 Author Posted December 3, 2022 Well, I ordered the Shimano Vangard 3000xg and some Berkley mono. Ya... I like braid on my casting reels and I've been trying to like Flouro for awhile, but I'm going back to mono. Used it since I was a kid and to me, even with it's drawbacks, I manage it well. Eventually I might do braided on spinning but I struggle with leaders. Quote
Revival Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 By Vangard I’m assuming you mean Vanford?  Good choice and let us know how you like it.  Quote
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