Backing on reels

[GoneFishingLTN]

I have daiwa tatula svs https://daiwa.us/products/tatula-sv-tw

and lews magnesium reels https://www.tackledirect.com/team-lews-tlm1sh-pro-magenesium-super-high-speed-baitcast-reel.html

 

going to use the sv for Carolina rigs/texas rigs and the lews for moving baits 

 

Would you use backing, if so would you use braid?

how do you know when to stop on the backing to make sure you have plenty of line 

[MN Fisher]

22 minutes ago, GoneFishingLTN said:

Would you use backing, if so would you use braid?

how do you know when to stop on the backing to make sure you have plenty of line 

Casting reels I use 10# Big Game for backing.

 

Get yourself a line counter - even a cheap one like the Berkley I use

Spool up your main line - 70yds or so, then fill the spool with the backing. Unspool to an empty, then transfer to another empty to reverse, then spool up the reel from that.

 

That's the process I use on a new reel. When you change out line at the end of the season, just unspool to the connection knot (I use a double uni), then you can just put new mainline on...keep the backing, it really doesn't 'wear out'.

[PhishLI]

1 hour ago, GoneFishingLTN said:

Would you use backing, if so would you use braid?

yes

1 hour ago, GoneFishingLTN said:

how do you know when to stop on the backing to make sure you have plenty of line 

 

[FishTank]

I back all my reels with the cheapest mono I can find. I fill it about 25% of the way. 

 

I'm not fan of braid with hard baits unless I use a leader.  I would go with Seaguar InvizX for the Carolina Rig and Texas rigged stuff and Sufix Seige for mono on the hard baits. 

[Bankbeater]

For the first time using backing I will fill up the spool all the way with cheap mono.  Then I'll make some casts out in the back yard to see how far I'm casting and how much line is going out.  When I get a pretty good idea of how much backing I'll need I make a cast and cut the line at the spool.

[JustJames]

It is really depends on the line type and size as well as spool capacity. For example your Tatula SV only have line capacity of assumeable 14lb FC line @100yds. If you use anything bigger like 15lb Copolymer, you would get maybe 80-90yds. At that point I’m not gonna bother backing, beside most of filler spool come with 200yds spool anyway.

let say my zillion sv (the same spool capacity as your Tatula) I use 15lb FC line no backing. At full cast of 3/8 jig I only have about 1/4 spool of line left.

My alphas SV TW while less capacity but get almost 1/4 full of backing because I use only 8-10lb FC line. 
 

backing with braid or mono? Typically mono is the way to go unless you plan to take advantage of weight saved for casting light lure >1/4oz and plan to backing half of spool. Other than that braid wouldn’t give you much benefit but you might have problem line slipping.

[bulldog1935]

Here's the capacity calculator for stacking two lines of different diameter on a spool. It's pretty accurate. 

https://www.pattayafishing.net/advanced-fishing-reel-line-capacity-estimator/

 

When I fish braid on a deep spool, have determined it takes about 20-25 yds 20-lb mono backing to put 80-100 yds 20-lb 832 on top.  This makes a lightweight arbor and keeps spool mass low for reliable casting with a linear mag brake

 

In the past, I've also gone the route of backing with cheap braid (YoZuri) on a dual-brake reel to fish good fluoro on top. 

[Jrob78]

I use 12lb Big Game for backing. I fill the reel about halfway or so, more or less depending on the spool capacity, with the BG and then fill the rest of the way with my line of choice. I don't get too scientific with it. 

[Mike L]

14 minutes ago, Jrob78 said:

I use 12lb Big Game for backing. I fill the reel about halfway or so, more or less depending on the spool capacity, with the BG and then fill the rest of the way with my line of choice. I don't get too scientific with it. 

Ditto

 

For my flipping and pitching set ups, I use about 75% of the spools capacity using 12# also regardless of the main line. 
 

For casting reels I fill about 25%
 

 

 

 

 

Mike

[Aaron_H]

1 hour ago, Jrob78 said:

I use 12lb Big Game for backing. I fill the reel about halfway or so, more or less depending on the spool capacity, with the BG and then fill the rest of the way with my line of choice. I don't get too scientific with it. 

 

Same with the 12lb Big Game, except like Mike I do about 25% give or take depending on spool capacity. I like to have about 75 yards or so of main line to account for retying and break offs. I tie off with a double-uni since it's much faster for me.

[Revival]

9 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

Here's the capacity calculator for stacking two lines of different diameter on a spool. It's pretty accurate. 

https://www.pattayafishing.net/advanced-fishing-reel-line-capacity-estimator/

 

Found this calculator a while back and it’s been a game changer for me.  I use it for EVERY reel.

 

I use braid for most of my combos and I use only 75 yards of braid for each reel.

 With that calculator and a line counter, I know exactly how much backing goes on each reel.  

 

So now when I buy 300 yds of braid, it can spool up 4 different reels instead of having a weird amount left over that goes to waste.

[bulldog1935]

@Revival

It gets even easier if you use the marked braids that change color every 10 m

 

[Revival]

2 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

@Revival

It gets even easier if you use the marked braids that change color every 10 m

 

I have a digital line counter that has yards/meters.  It’s little bit more pricey but it has already paid for itself with the amount of money I have saved with using all of my braid instead of wasting.

[PressuredFishing]

3 minutes ago, Revival said:

It’s little bit more pricey but it has already paid for itself with the amount of money I have saved with using all of my braid instead of wasting.

I have been thinking about getting one, been basing mine off of IPT x .765 to account for rotation loss without line  and then devide the product by how much line I want in inches, then convert it back to yards....

 

to put it bluntly, buy the line counter and don't be a weirdo like me...

 

13 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

Here's the capacity calculator for stacking two lines of different diameter on a spool. It's pretty accurate. 

What......  now I'm done 

[TnRiver46]

I have backing on 100% of my fishing reels. I just do mono to mono with a blood knot. How do you know if you’ve put enough on? Half and half is a good place to start, I’ve never measured or counted it. Just reel on more than it would take to reel in a long cast and you should be A OK 

[WRB]

I have used 2’ per handle turn for decades and It’s accurate enough; 60 handle turns = 40 yards for backing. More conservative use 50 turns.

Tom

[Mike L]

8 hours ago, WRB said:

I have used 2’ per handle turn for decades and It’s accurate enough; 60 handle turns = 40 yards for backing. More conservative use 50 turns.

Tom

I do pretty much the same thing. 
Once you do it a few times you can tell when to stop just by looking at it. 
 

No need to buy something to tell me what I see. 
 

 

 

 

 

Mike