wadeboyzfishing Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 ive been using gamakatsu octopus #2 for my weightless senkos. im primarily a worm guy 70% of season. but im looking at upgrading to one brand of hook for simplicity and bulk purchasing . pros and cons of vmc vs gama. 1 Quote
RHuff Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 I like the Berkley Fusion Finesse Wide Gap #2 or the VMC Wacky #2.. most of my hooksets with these are right in the top of the mouth… The Berkley hooks are sticky sharp.. Some like the VMC Neko for wacky but I have resulted in too many gut hooked fish.. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted November 20, 2022 Super User Posted November 20, 2022 37 minutes ago, wadeboyzfishing said: but im looking at upgrading to one brand of hook for simplicity and bulk purchasing . Gammy and Owner are probably the best hooks out there...'upgrading' from Gamakatsu makes me scratch my head in confusion. 6 1 Quote
Super User gim Posted November 20, 2022 Super User Posted November 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, wadeboyzfishing said: ive been using gamakatsu octopus #2 for my weightless senkos. Try the VMC Neko hook. I use size number 2 (not 2/0) for wacky rigging. The longer shank helps with getting a hook set in the roof of the mouth versus the side. This is coming from a guy who used to primarily use a VMC wacky hook, which is specifically "designed" for wacky rigging. The Neko hook is just better for it. 2 Quote
wadeboyzfishing Posted November 20, 2022 Author Posted November 20, 2022 @MN Fisheri love them but i here tons of good things about vmc neko & Gamakatsu Wide Gap Finesse and im not sure the octopus are the right hook but there deadly sharp and ive had great success with them. so upgrading is essentially staying with gama or moving to vmc neko. Quote
Super User Catt Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 When y'all get tired of playing around...Mustad! 1 1 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 13 hours ago, MN Fisher said: Gammy and Owner are probably the best hooks out there...'upgrading' from Gamakatsu makes me scratch my head in confusion. I hear you but I did upgrade from Grammy to Owner. 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Dwight Hottle said: I hear you but I did upgrade from Grammy to Owner. Ya - but he was talking Gammy to VMC... Don't get me wrong...VMC is a good hook, but it's my #3. 2 Quote
Super User LrgmouthShad Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 As @MN Fisher said… hard to upgrade from Gamakatsu hooks… with anything. They might be my favorite hooks on the market. I do like mustad and owner very much as well. 13 hours ago, wadeboyzfishing said: @MN Fisheri love them but i here tons of good things about vmc neko & Gamakatsu Wide Gap Finesse and im not sure the octopus are the right hook but there deadly sharp and ive had great success with them. so upgrading is essentially staying with gama or moving to vmc neko. I’ve used the VMC Neko. It’s a good hook. Not too much to complain about. If you like the shape, thickness, and size of the VMC Neko more, then go with it. But I would not pick it over a Gammy hook over some perceived brand superiority. I can see an argument for bulk purchasing of the VMC as you mention. If you pick the VMC for that purpose, okay, but I would not expect to be wow’d at its performance over the Gamakatsu Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 15 hours ago, MN Fisher said: Gammy and Owner are probably the best hooks out there...'upgrading' from Gamakatsu makes me scratch my head in confusion. Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 16 hours ago, wadeboyzfishing said: pros and cons of vmc vs gama. Most people can pronounce VMC? 3 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Choporoz said: Most people can pronounce VMC? Very Much Crap 1 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted November 21, 2022 Global Moderator Posted November 21, 2022 For me there is no one brand that covers my most used presentations. I use Trokar, Owner or Gammy depending on what I’m throwing where. Mike Quote
Super User FishTank Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 Owner and Gamakatsu have been my favorite. VMC and Trokar might be tied for third but Decoy and Ryugi are giving all them a run for their money. If I make an order from Japan, they are about half the cost. It's nice to have choices ?. Quote
Super User Jar11591 Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 I use Gamakatsu hooks exclusively. The Wide Gap Finesse hooks cover pretty much all my finesse bases, from wacky rigs to drop shots to nose hooked weightless flukes. It’s the perfect finesse hook in my opinion. Quote
Super User Bankc Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 I think most of the premium hook brands are all about the same. Now, there are specific hooks within each brand that may be better than the competition. But I'm not convinced that one brand is unequivocally better than any other across the entire line. I believe it's largely going to be personal preference as to what you like best. 4 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 18 hours ago, MN Fisher said: Gammy and Owner are probably the best hooks out there...'upgrading' from Gamakatsu makes me scratch my head in confusion. Same for me, I use Gamakatsu and Owner for pretty much everything. I did use Trokar for a while but ultimately didn't like them as much as the old standbys. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 I have different favorite brands based on specific use. Swimbait jig head Trokar Boxer the best Ive used. Fat Ikas Gama Deep throat Wacky senko get Eagle Claw weedless red Ned rigs Trokar tungsten finesse. Honorable mention goes to VMC Fast Grip ewg red for Ikas they seem to last longer slide up hook not tear off rip as easily. Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 The only hook I use for Weedless weightless 5” & 6” Senko’s is Owner 4109-106 size 1(.034D Zo wire ) Jungle Wacky Weedless. Tom 1 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 Yamamoto Sugoi #3 a Gamakatsu made specifically for Yamamoto. https://www.ichibantackle.com/products/c177-worm-hook/ Quote
Super User JustJames Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Bankc said: I think most of the premium hook brands are all about the same. Now, there are specific hooks within each brand that may be better than the competition. But I'm not convinced that one brand is unequivocally better than any other across the entire line. I believe it's largely going to be personal preference as to what you like best. Thanks. My Ewg hook is Gamakatsu. My Neko/wacky hook is VMC. My twisted lock hook is Mustad. My dropshot hook is roboworm rebarb hook. All thing considered, size, hook up ratio, price and convenience of getting them. Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 I’ve switched to pretty much all Owner for hooks. The offset wide gap ewgs have a good hookup ratio. The j ligjts are great for light line. Pretty much all I need for TRigs Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 Mosquito hooks work really well for wacky rigs and they are available in bulk packs. They are kind of like Owners Octopus hooks. Don't overlook the other Japanese brands. Decoy, Hayabusa and Ichikawa all make great hooks. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted November 21, 2022 Global Moderator Posted November 21, 2022 I've tried a lot of hooks for weightless (wacky), senkos, I settled on the ones I use now that are made by Eagle Claw. Best wacky rig hooks I've used and it's not even close. Since I'm sure nobody would believe Eagle Claw can make a top shelf hook, they do make the same hook in the Trokar lineup. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Trokar_Neko_Weedless_Hook_6pk/descpage-TNWH.html 1 Quote
Super User Columbia Craw Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 What about Hi ya boos ah? Quote
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