Ohioguy25 Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 Say for instance the bull Shad vs a deps Quote
NittyGrittyBoy Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 I've thrown a few a few glide baits in my local river, and it was a failure. As long as I kept the bait in an eddy or an oxbow lake it was fine, but any current blew it away. So it didn't work for me and I was looking to try something else. I've since just thrown a Megabass 6" Magdraft freestyle and called it good. Its weedless, i can fish current with it, and skips under overhanging trees. Not quite the answer your looking but my advice is to experiment, try them out and see what you like the best 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 No, but I don't find the reverse true either, specific to the individual lure whether jointed or not, how deep it runs, size/profile, and action is what I find determines what works or not in rivers (and most other places). 2 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted November 21, 2022 Global Moderator Posted November 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Deleted account said: No, but I don't find the reverse true either, specific to the individual lure whether jointed or not, how deep it runs, size/profile, and action is what I find determines what works or not in rivers (and most other places). Ditto Mike Quote
Super User Bankc Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 Yes. But they're totally different lures for completely different purposes. I always struggled with multi-jointed hard swimbaits, until I learned to fish them fast and close to the surface. Like really fast! With glide baits, you want to fish them really slow. The former relies on a reaction strike where the bass bite the bait without getting a good look at it. They need to be in an aggressive mood for it to work. The latter work better for when bass are in a less aggressive mood. Bass will often follow a glide bait for some time, without committing to a bite. It almost seems to hypnotize them. The former also will catch more bass, while the latter will catch bigger bass (and in my experience, lots of catfish for some reason). So I've caught a lot more bass off the multi-jointed, hard swimbaits, typically because when they're keying in on them, you can usually catch quite a few in a day, due to their aggressive mood. 1 Quote
Ohioguy25 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Bankc said: Yes. But they're totally different lures for completely different purposes. I always struggled with multi-jointed hard swimbaits, until I learned to fish them fast and close to the surface. Like really fast! With glide baits, you want to fish them really slow. The former relies on a reaction strike where the bass bite the bait without getting a good look at it. They need to be in an aggressive mood for it to work. The latter work better for when bass are in a less aggressive mood. Bass will often follow a glide bait for some time, without committing to a bite. It almost seems to hypnotize them. The former also will catch more bass, while the latter will catch bigger bass (and in my experience, lots of catfish for some reason). So I've caught a lot more bass off the multi-jointed, hard swimbaits, typically because when they're keying in on them, you can usually catch quite a few in a day, due to their aggressive mood. Thank you everyone for the information, sounds like they have different applications and both have a place in our tackle boxes ??? Quote
Ohioguy25 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Posted November 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Deleted account said: No, but I don't find the reverse true either, specific to the individual lure whether jointed or not, how deep it runs, size/profile, and action is what I find determines what works or not in rivers (and most other places). Do you find the Deps slide swimmer has a broad glide or average? Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted November 21, 2022 Super User Posted November 21, 2022 While I fly fish 99% of the time on rivers, the flies i tie that were the most successful for me this year were ones that were segmented and had 6 joints. The ones that only had one or none were not as successful. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted November 21, 2022 Global Moderator Posted November 21, 2022 Nobody says you can't straight retrieve glide baits. Try burning one on a straight retrieve, that's how I fish them at times, including in current, and the smallmouth will crush them. Faster sinking baits like the Savage Gear Gear Glide or 6th Sense Speed Glide are good options for it. 1 Quote
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