hypothetical FIRST-DATE question.

[Darth-Baiter]

i'm married.  marriage is solid.  my wife and i align for the most part with respect to food.

 

i am eaves-dropping on my coworkers.  super funny conversation.  (eating my cold sandwich for lunch, killing time relaxing before a meeting  )

 

the conversation:  first date, and the person orders a fancy steak, but asks for it WELL-DONE(!) and with ketchup.  hahahha..one kids said, "Check please, i am outta here!"

 

i kinda think we cant all possibly like the food the same, but in most cases, a well done steak is almost criminal.  ketchup?  haha..

 

to even the playing field..let's ignore the dates' other qualities.    will there be a second date?  based on food?

 

okay, gotta go!

[Choporoz]

Suppose it might depend.....Morton's?  Or Golden Corral?

[Siebert Outdoors]

I wouldn't pass judgement on something like that but I wouldn't eat it.    I have a few relatives that only eat steak well done and then complain they dont like steak.  We eventually always have the same conversation.  Well done steak is generally tough.  Eat a hamburger.  Or my grill doesn't cook well done steaks but it does make a hamburger.

[MN Fisher]

25 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said:

the conversation:  first date, and the person orders a fancy steak, but asks for it WELL-DONE(!) and with ketchup.  hahahha..one kids said, "Check please, i am outta here!"

No matter where I go, when I order steak I have three ways of telling them how rare I want it.

 

"When I stick a fork in it, it should try to moo."

"Threaten it with the flames."

"Heck with it, just bring me a cow and a butcher knife."

[flyfisher]

Who cares.  If that is what they want to eat and that is what they enjoy then I am ok with it.  My wife is a well done steak gal or at least was.  Now I can get away with a medium well and she has said it tastes better.  I am a rare/medium rare guy myself.

 

I also like to cook and I cook for me and my family and if we like it, then we eat it, even if conventional wisdom says otherwise.

[Woody B]

I too am happily married.  I had an interesting first (and last) date several decades ago.   I met a girl at a very redneck bar (my kind of place) and arranged a date with her the next evening.   I picked her up at an apartment.  When we got to my truck I opened the passenger door for her.  She said "it's 1985, I can open my own door".   On the way to the restaurant she was spewing all kinds of liberal BS, including a bunch of stuff about how bad guns are and how hunting and fishing is animal cruelty.   I decided there wasn't going to be a 2nd date.  At the restaurant she ordered chicken strips.  I ordered a Porterhouse.  When we were finished eating the waitress brought us the check.   I don't remember the exact amount, but I said "It's 1985, your half is $xx.   I'll get the tip"   At least I didn't have to listen to her nonsense on the way back to her apartment.   

 

 

I wouldn't care what a first date had to eat but a well done steak, with or without ketchup makes me kinda sick.   

[DitchPanda]

43 minutes ago, flyfisher said:

Who cares.  If that is what they want to eat and that is what they enjoy then I am ok with it.  My wife is a well done steak gal or at least was.  Now I can get away with a medium well and she has said it tastes better.  I am a rare/medium rare guy myself.

 

I also like to cook and I cook for me and my family and if we like it, then we eat it, even if conventional wisdom says otherwise.

 My dad was always that way...no pink let alone blood. One time I made a ribeye medium rare for him and he said wow this is the best steak I've ever had. I said yeah...that's because I didn't ruin it.

 To answer the OP question I couldn't decide yeah or nay on a 2nd date based on her food order alone...no matter how poor of a choice she made like say a well done steak. If she was fun, reasonably intelligent and attractive to me I could overlook alot.

[flyfisher]

3 minutes ago, DitchPanda said:

 My dad was always that way...no pink let alone blood. One time I made a ribeye medium rare for him and he said wow this is the best steak I've ever had. I said yeah...that's because I didn't ruin it.

 To answer the OP question I couldn't decide yeah or nay on a 2nd date based on her food order alone...no matter how poor of a choice she made like say a well done steak. If she was fun, reasonably intelligent and attractive to me I could overlook alot.

well the red you see in steaks isn't blood anyways, it is myoglobin but lots of people think it is blood.

[slonezp]

Ketchup? Kick her to the door.

[DitchPanda]

19 minutes ago, flyfisher said:

well the red you see in steaks isn't blood anyways, it is myoglobin but lots of people think it is blood.

Actually I knew that...learned it years ago when I cut meat for a living. But saying my dad didn't like any pink in his steak let alone myoglobin didn't have the same ring to it.

[12poundbass]

1 hour ago, flyfisher said:

well the red you see in steaks isn't blood anyways, it is myoglobin but lots of people think it is blood.

If I remember right, I actually learned this from you a few years ago on a different forum when we were talking about…..steaks!

 

And with that, my life has come full circle! ?

[GreenPig]

I find it hilarious that people are so overly concerned about how others like their steak. I'm a well done steak guy with 57 sauce. Many of the folks I know that love raw steaks for the tenderness also love beef jerky. Logical in their nugget,  I guess. 

[gim]

14 hours ago, DitchPanda said:

To answer the OP question I couldn't decide yeah or nay on a 2nd date based on her food order alone...no matter how poor of a choice she made like say a well done steak. If she was fun, reasonably intelligent and attractive to me I could overlook alot.

THIS

 

Making a potential life-altering decision on such a minor detail would be foolish.

 

That being said, I would never order it that way either.  My Father grew up hating beef (both steaks and hamburger) because his Mother cooked the crap out of all it it.  Burgers were like hockey pucks and steaks were like shoe leather.  Only after he got married to my Mother who began to cook them to a lesser extent did he enjoy it.  "Where has this been my whole life?" was the question he posed the first time a steak was prepared medium rare for him.

[JackstrawIII]

I too am happily married and super grateful that my "first date" days are far in the rearview mirror. Don't miss those days at all. 

With that said, my wife was this girl because she didn't know any better. She grew up eating burned meat that needed ketchup because it was dry as a bone. My FIL still grills that way, though I'm slowly convincing him that meat doesn't have to resemble a charcoal briquette in order to be safe to eat. My wife has come a long way and actually does 90% of the grilling now... and does an amazing job. 

 

Glad I didn't miss out on all the stuff (she's pretty, fun, gentle, generous, responsible, godly, etc.) just because she didn't know the right way to eat a steak! 

[TOXIC]

First I would need to see a picture of the date.?

As far as steak there was a place outside of Kansas City in a little town called Martin City that specialized in steak called Jess and Jim’s.  They had a cook selection on their menu that was a little beyond the Rare, Medium Rare, Medium, Medium Well and Well done options.  It was “Blue”.   And it was perfect.  ?

[gim]

1 hour ago, JackstrawIII said:

She grew up eating burned meat that needed ketchup because it was dry as a bone.

That's exactly how my Father grew up eating it too.  Just didn't know any better until he got married and his wife started preparing it different.

[MN Fisher]

9 minutes ago, gimruis said:

That's exactly how my Father grew up eating it too.  Just didn't know any better until he got married and his wife started preparing it different.

I grew up the reverse (I'm probably close to your dad's age) - Rare was normal, sister wanted med-rare - medium-well was 'oh gods, it's ruined', well done was likened to charcoal...

[N Florida Mike]

My wife and me had our first date when she invited me over to cook dinner for me.

I am a big eater. I love almost everything.

Almost.

 So my future wife made saurkraut ! ?

As much as I didn’t want to hurt her feelings, it wasn’t enough to motivate me to eat it!

She cooked me a hamburger.

We've been married since 1991 !

[GReb]

Anything past medium rare is disrespectful to the cow. 

[MN Fisher]

20 minutes ago, N Florida Mike said:

My wife and me had our first date when she invited me over to cook dinner for me.

I am a big eater. I love almost everything.

Almost.

 So my future wife made saurkraut ! ?

As much as I didn’t want to hurt her feelings, it wasn’t enough to motivate me to eat it!

She cooked me a hamburger.

We've been married since 1991 !

First time my future-wife cooked a meal at my place - she scratch-made fettuccine alfredo - we were married a little over a year later...in 1990.

[PhishLI]

22 hours ago, Darth-Baiter said:

to even the playing field..let's ignore the dates' other qualities. 

That's impossible.

 

22 hours ago, Darth-Baiter said:

will there be a second date?  based on food?

Depends on the food. I might let the ketchup on steak thing slide if I was digging the vibe, but if she ordered a liverwurst and head cheese sandwich I'd do the bathroom break thing and jump out the window.

[J Francho]

Automatic door locks ruined my acid test.  Unlock and open the passenger door for her.  If she didn't lean over and unlock the driver side door, no second date.   

[flyfisher]

3 hours ago, PhishLI said:

That's impossible.

 

Depends on the food. I might let the ketchup on steak thing slide if I was digging the vibe, but if she ordered a liverwurst and head cheese sandwich I'd do the bathroom break thing and jump out the window.

If she ordered that she was the one not looking for a second date...

[PhishLI]

1 hour ago, J Francho said:

If she didn't lean over and unlock the driver side door, no second date.   

Calogero?

[Bird]

I'm an old school older guy.

Was mainly looking for a woman that could cook and looked good doing so. ?

 

I paided for everything each time we went out and never payed attention to what she ordered, really didn't care.

Oh, been married since 1986.