Massive Hooksets

[Catt]

According to his peers Hackney has the most violent hookset on the circuit.

 

Some make fun of those of us who "ski" em to the boat.

 

When I sethook, I turn their head, & getting em coming up all in one motion. I do not stop until they are in the boat. Therefore dinks get skied on the surface & boat flipped.

[RDB]

49 minutes ago, WRB said:

Hook point is so critical you miss strikes without very sharpe hooks that stick bass mouth tissue allowing strike detection.

Not true…in practice, I, as do many pro’s will often remove hooks to make it easy to shake off.  Having a hook is not a requirement for strike detection.  Also, when a bass picks up a jig, they rarely have a good hook in them until the set.

[WRB]

How do you think a strike can be detected at 40 yards away?

If the hook doesn’t stick mouth tissues and move the line as the bass  engulfs the jig hooking itself momentarily you the angler have no clue a strike occurred. It’s that simple, the sharp hook point sticking mouth tissue is everything.

Tom

[RDB]

1 hour ago, WRB said:

How do you think a strike can be detected at 40 yards away?

If the hook doesn’t stick mouth tissues and move the line as the bass  engulfs the jig hooking itself momentarily you the angler have no clue a strike occurred. It’s that simple, the sharp hook point sticking mouth tissue is everything.

Tom

You win…you can’t gain any control of a bass through a hook set.  A hook sticking into the flesh of a bass is necessary to detect a strike.  The reason most bass are hooked in (or near) the lips is because that is where they hold a bait after engulfing and not because that’s where most get stuck on the set.  You never detect a strike when a bass inhales and spits out a lure but only when they engulf and the hook somehow penetrates.  You never need to delay your sets with things like swim jigs and the blade on a chatterbait can never blow the mouth of a bass open when using too strong of a rod or hook set.  There is no way to know whether trailer hooks on spinnerbaits would be helpful because short strikes are undetectable.  No bass we’re ever caught in the days before sticky sharp hooks and my (and many others) experiences with practicing with no hook lures and somehow detecting strikes is just a figment of our imaginations.

 

Edit:  And once again with the extremes to try to make a point.  How did we all of a sudden get out to 40 yards?  Most lures fished at 40 yards are treble hooked or moving baits which changes the dynamics.  Even with things like Carolina rigs that are fished at long distances, most of the strikes are detected without having a hook in the fish.

[Catt]

@WRB Yeah Tom I ain't buying that one.

 

A 3# bass can inhale a jig without it touching any part of it's mouth. It can close it's mouth & not move leaving you feeling nuthin.

 

In my mind every bass is different, every bite is different, but every hookset is the same.

[WRB]

You anin’t casting 40 yards or using a jig without a weed guard. Bass engulfs the jig and the hook point sticks the mouth tissue when crunching down to kill the critter. 

If the point doesn’t stick mouth tissue the spits out the jig and you never knew it.

Tom

[Catt]

6 minutes ago, WRB said:

using a jig without a weed guard.

 

You will only throw that once around here!

[T-Billy]

1 hour ago, WRB said:

You anin’t casting 40 yards or using a jig without a weed guard. Bass engulfs the jig and the hook point sticks the mouth tissue when crunching down to kill the critter. 

If the point doesn’t stick mouth tissue the spits out the jig and you never knew it.

Tom

I've felt a lot of fish hit n spit my T rig at that range over the years without exposing the hook point. 

[WRB]

10 hours ago, Catt said:

 

You will only throw that once around here!

Yep, right lure for structure / cover being fished. 

I do add a hitchhiker with worm weed guard but my jig doesn’t work good in heavy cover, works good where I fish.

Tom

[1984isNOW]

Best Hook set I've ever seen: we can all learn something from this!

[rtwvumtneer6]

On 10/17/2022 at 3:29 PM, flyfisher said:

nothing is better than a solid hookset and you don't feel the fish move.

...until it's a stump. ?

[lynxcat]

I have learned over time that I am better off not laying into hooksets most of the time. Jigs are maybe my one exception. I’m a big guy and I’ve broken the line too often on intense hooksets. It feels good to lay into them but it’s totally unnecessary. 

[T-Billy]

Thought of this thread today after setting the hook into a log, TWICE!!! ?‍♂️ First time there was a dink still on after I poked the hook off the wood. Hook point came out TDC and buried into the log he was hiding under. He's been placed on concussion protocol. Second swing, different log, I missed the fish and landed a chunk of log. Opened up a 4/0 flippin hook a bit both times. #STRAIGHTBRAIDBRIGADE!!! 

Side note: I like these $6 RiverRuns gloves nearly as well as the $30 Fish Monkey gloves they replaced. Factor in the cost difference, I like 'em a whole bunch better.

[Cbump]

On 10/17/2022 at 1:29 PM, BigLeagueFishing said:

I keep seeing bass fishermen acting like they're swinging a baseball bat during a hookset. How many of you guys actually do this? I'm honestly just curious as the vast majority of the time I just angle my rod up and reel in the slack, never had an issue losing fish this way. I only ever put muscle into it when I'm using 40+ pound braid with a frog/jig in heavy cover.

What you do would never work with a 10” Worm or creature t-rigged. 

On 10/21/2022 at 10:54 PM, WRB said:

How do you think a strike can be detected at 40 yards away?

If the hook doesn’t stick mouth tissues and move the line as the bass  engulfs the jig hooking itself momentarily you the angler have no clue a strike occurred. It’s that simple, the sharp hook point sticking mouth tissue is everything.

Tom

? so how does this work when my hook point is embedded in a plastic? I don’t buy this at all. 

[WRB]

2 hours ago, Cbump said:

What you do would never work with a 10” Worm or creature t-rigged. 

? so how does this work when my hook point is embedded in a plastic? I don’t buy this at all. 

Never embed a hook point always skin hook the point.

Not asking you to buy it, it try it or don’t.

Tom

[Mike L]

2 hours ago, Cbump said:

What you do would never work with a 10” Worm or creature t-rigged. 

? so how does this work when my hook point is embedded in a plastic? I don’t buy this at all. 

I always embed mine on a punch rig and have no problem sticking. 
It works just fine if you use a sharp quality hook. 
 

 

 

 

Mike 

[Glenn]

2 hours ago, Cbump said:

What you do would never work with a 10” Worm or creature t-rigged. 

 

Watch and learn.

 

[Catt]

32 minutes ago, Mike L said:

I always embed mine on a punch rig and have no problem sticking. 
It works just fine if you use a sharp quality hook. 
 

 

 

 

Mike 

 

I always embed the hook on everything but Ribbits, Flukes, or Senkos.

 

If y'all can't drive a hook point though a piece of plastic y'all need better hooks or better hook setting techniques.

[MN Fisher]

54 minutes ago, Catt said:

If y'all can't drive a hook point though a piece of plastic y'all need better hooks

Or at least sharpen the ones you have.

[T-Billy]

When it comes to embedded hooks, the plastic matters. Nearly all factory baits are soft plastic with lots of salt. Easy to drive a hook through but not very durable. 

The baits I make have no salt and are made with medium plastisol. Much more durable and they hold a hook better. Harder to drive a hook through though. Still, the only one that really requires a HARD set is the Sweet Craw. I can fish that sucker through anything though without exposing the point, and it's accounted for every bass over 5# for the past two years. 

[A-Jay]

Completely forgot about this hookset with a jig & heavy casting gear.

Not one of my finer moments, but there was carnage.

Did manage to redeem myself on the next cast.

https://youtu.be/1to6ti-tlZY?t=617

Fish Hard

A-Jay

[WRB]

A-Jay Nice reel and sweep set, both the stick fish and the big bass?

Tom

[A-Jay]

12 minutes ago, WRB said:

A-Jay Nice reel and sweep set, both the stick fish and the big bass?

Tom

Thanks Tom.

The stick fish was right under the boat and I high sticked it - so bad.

Cost me a nice travel rod.

A-Jay

[RB 77]

27 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Completely forgot about this hookset with a jig & heavy casting gear.

Not one of my finer moments, but there was carnage.

Did manage to redeem myself on the next cast.

https://youtu.be/1to6ti-tlZY?t=617

Fish Hard

A-Jay

 

Dang A-Jay, that was a savage hook set on that branch! Haha. Really nice fish right after it too! ?

[T-Billy]

15 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Thanks Tom.

The stick fish was right under the boat and I high sticked it - so bad.

Cost me a nice travel rod.

A-Jay

Brother, You surely made @Log Catcher proud of ya with that one. ? We've all been there. Sometimes ya hook 'em just right, a little off center, and they even run sideways on ya. That was a dandy on the second swing.