dang it. I think I need another rod. or do I? glass crankbait rod

[Darth-Baiter]

a glass crankbait rod? what do you think?  what line are you using specifically for crank baits?  straight braid?

 

with braid, I think a crank bait rod would be a good combo with the parabolic action, no?  maybe I am thinking all wrong?

[AlabamaSpothunter]

Personally, I want the added stretch with mono.   Gonna get a Rebound rod myself soon. 

 

Anything moving I want as many advantages I can get....meaning I want my setup as forgiving as possible.   I want to account for my fast reactions by giving the fish more time to get the bait.    

 

[KP Duty]

I prefer graphite or composite.  I also prefer a good copolymer line.  I use 8lb CXX (.012") for all but large deep divers.

[LonnieP]

No braid for crankbaits. You want something with a little give to it. I use 10lb copoly. 

[Jrob78]

I'm a big fan of glass for crankbaits. I don't think braid is a good choice though, I use copoly a lot and sometimes fluorocarbon. 12 lb P line CX is my go to.

[Darth-Baiter]

Thanks. 

[roadwarrior]

St Croix Legend Tourament LBCT MHM

7'2" Carbon Cranker, Medium Heavy, Moderate   

https://stcroixrods.com/products/legend-tournament-bass-2022-new-models

[PotatoLake]

Megabass Valkyrie 71MH for 1/2-1oz

Megabass Tomahawk F4-71T  for 3/8 -5/8 oz.

Or if you want a lighter, longer more affordable option.

 

Daiwa Rebellion 73MH Glass.

 

I use CoPoly or Fluoro.

[TnRiver46]

1 hour ago, roadwarrior said:

St Croix Legend Tourament LBCT MHM

7'2" Carbon Cranker, Medium Heavy, Moderate   

https://stcroixrods.com/products/legend-tournament-bass-2022-new-models

What he said ! Fun stuff 

[WRB]

Nothing wrong with braid if you set your reel drag 3-4 lbs.

12 lb Mono/ Copolymer line does’t stretch at 3-4 lbs forces.

Mono is larger is diameter having a higher coefficient of drag going through water creating a bow in the line angler “believe” is line stretch and serves the purpose.

The issue you can’t cast 12 lb braid effectively with a bait casting reel using MH rods needed for deep diving crank baits. 

When you decide to use a crank baits plan on making 100’s of casts, you need a rod reel combo that easy to use and line that can be replaced as it wears from use.

Moderate action rods cast easier longer distance when using deep diving crank baits. Lipless and square bill shallow to medium divers don’t require a special crank bait rod, any medium fast bass rod will work OK.

Tom

[Columbia Craw]

You may want to factor in some things such as lure weight, lure size, intended depth range, hook size, cover and structure and species.  I fish with mono in larger tests as in 14-17 and flouro for 8-12 tests.  You don’t have to spend a bunch of money to get a decent CB rod.

[RDB]

I wouldn’t use braid with a crankbait if you bought for the braid for me.  Having the correct setup makes a big difference with any treble hook bait.  I don’t know the percentages but I would bet that the vast majority of fish are lost next to the boat. It’s not just about the casting or hook sets.  Playing the bass properly also plays a big part and IMO, a good glass/composite rod gives me an advantage.

 

Edit:  As I have shared a number of times, I think the Alpha Angler Rebound is one of the best crankbait rods on the market.

[GetFishorDieTryin]

I use braid on spinning tackle for JBs and shad raps and it works great.  One benefit to braid is that there is no stretch or memory.  With mono or FC if I want that bait to come to a complete stop ASAP I feel like I have to point the tip at the bait when I stop reeling to get that sudden pause.  With braid as soon as I stop reeling that bait the bait stops.   

[new2BC4bass]

My B-I-L must be doing something wrong.  He hardly ever uses more than 2 lures.  One is the original F11 Rapala.  He only uses 40# braid and only spinning reels.  Uses 40# because he doesn't want to lose any lures.  Very seldom loses a fish.  Uses very cheap gear.  Doubt any of his rods have a true fast action.  His other lure is a 10" thru 12" unweighted worm.  Somehow he manages to set the hook on those whippy rods with 5/0 and 6/0 hooks and yet not lose fish on the Rapala.

[RDB]

20 minutes ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

With mono or FC if I want that bait to come to a complete stop ASAP I feel like I have to point the tip at the bait when I stop reeling to get that sudden pause.  With braid as soon as I stop reeling that bait the bait stops.

If you want your jerkbait to get wider swings and stop ASAP, you should throw slack.   Most people move a jerkbait with the rod, not the reel.  The reel is to take up the slack, just like with a walking bait.  Even when you just stop reeling, the bait doesn’t stop on a dime due to rod load.

[GetFishorDieTryin]

37 minutes ago, RDB said:

If you want your jerkbait to get wider swings and stop ASAP, you should throw slack.   Most people move a jerkbait with the rod, not the reel.  The reel is to take up the slack, just like with a walking bait.  Even when you just stop reeling, the bait doesn’t stop on a dime due to rod load.

I was talking about speed cranking, not JB but I guess I didn't specify that very well.  

[Mojo Bass]

St croix mojo bass glass rods are great and affordable!

[new2BC4bass]

From personal experience I can say that if you 'think' you need a new rod, then you 'do' need a new rod. 

 

For line I prefer a mono or co-polymer.  I use a lot of Siege and AN40.  But, as I said earlier, my B-I-L uses only braid.  I know there are guys on here that use braid for everything.

 

The only hard and fast rule I am aware of is if you (or other member) and I were out fishing together and only one person was catching fish, it wouldn't be me. 

[PourMyOwn]

10 pound mono or copoly for me. I'm also a big believer in fiberglass keeping fish pinned on treble hooks. 

 

As much as I'd love to buy a new glass rod, I'm still a big fan of my old Rick Clunn fiberglass rods. As Columbia Craw said, you don't have to spend a lot.

[Darth-Baiter]

thanks.  just goes to show how little I knew about crank baits. 

[Bluebasser86]

Mono or Copoly for me with cranks. 

 

The St. Croix Legend Glass are the sweetest cranking rods I've ever fished. The 6' 10" MH/M has been a good do-all cranking rod, and the only glass rod I've fished that I feel like I might want to try fishing bladed jigs on it also. 

[Standard]

I picked up a St. Croix Mojo Bass Glass in medium / moderate a few months ago, really like the action.  Downside is it's a bit heavy and large diameter down at the reel.  Can get a bit tiring slinging lures for an hour or two.

[Masaccio]

On 10/9/2022 at 4:27 PM, WRB said:

Nothing wrong with braid if you set your reel drag 3-4 lbs.

12 lb Mono/ Copolymer line does’t stretch at 3-4 lbs forces.

Mono is larger is diameter having a higher coefficient of drag going through water creating a bow in the line angler “believe” is line stretch and serves the purpose.

The issue you can’t cast 12 lb braid effectively with a bait casting reel using MH rods needed for deep diving crank baits. 

When you decide to use a crank baits plan on making 100’s of casts, you need a rod reel combo that easy to use and line that can be replaced as it wears from use.

Moderate action rods cast easier longer distance when using deep diving crank baits. Lipless and square bill shallow to medium divers don’t require a special crank bait rod, any medium fast bass rod will work OK.

Tom

WRB would you say a little more about not being able to cast 12 lb. braid effectively with a bait casting reel using MH rods?  Thanks.  (Why not?  What happens? )  Thanks.  

PS: I have the Shimano Zodias 7'6" Glass Medium Heavy, Moderate for cranking.  

[Bass Rutten]

For years I used dobyns mod-fast graphite rods with braided line for cranking, I have transitioned and now I'm breaking the "rules" by using a medium power fast action rod for cranking. I feel the extra sensitivity and power helps navigate the lures through underwater vegetation better in the weedy natural lakes I fish, it just works for me. For line I prefer 10lb yozuri hybrid. 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

17 hours ago, Bass Rutten said:

For years I used dobyns mod-fast graphite rods with braided line for cranking, I have transitioned and now I'm breaking the "rules" by using a medium power fast action rod for cranking. I feel the extra sensitivity and power helps navigate the lures through underwater vegetation better in the weedy natural lakes I fish, it just works for me. For line I prefer 10lb yozuri hybrid. 

I agree. A faster more responsive rod for cover and ripping through grass. I like a good glass rod for deep cranks in open water.