High Speed Spinning Reels ?

[ChrisD46]

I have noticed a few top spinning reel brands going from 5:2:1 gear ratio up to the faster 6:2:1 gear ratio - what applications would you desire to have a faster gear ratio such as 6:2:1 in a spinning reel ?

[The Bassman]

I've come to prefer sub 6:1 reels. For me there is a noticeable difference in start up inertia and cranking effort. Also, I really don't notice any retrieve rate disadvantage as I'm fishing. 

[MN Fisher]

I'm also in favor of sub 6:1 spinning reels...reason I'm looking at JDM for my next one. They ship 6+ reels here, but have sub 6 model reels available over there.

[PaulVE64]

When your fishing in a river with current.

The extra pickup helps alot.

[The Baron]

I like the higher speed for dropshooting.  The hooksets are just a sweep and quick line pickup helps with keeping tight on them in that critical first couple of seconds.  It's also handy when throwing something like a wacky senko into a specific strike zone - either to get an ignored bait in/back out quicker, or to help get a fish out from cover (like from under a dock) before they can get me wrapped up.

[mrpao]

Most of my spinning reels are in the 5 gear ratio.

Daiwa and shimano have JDM reels in the high 4 gear ratio, which I also like.

 

 

[WRB]

Spinning reels have larger diameter spools compared to bait casting reels so evaluate the IPT* in lieu of gear ratio.

Tom

* Inches Per Turn of the reel handle, most 2500 size are over 30”.

[The Bassman]

2 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

I'm also in favor of sub 6:1 spinning reels...reason I'm looking at JDM for my next one. They ship 6+ reels here, but have sub 6 model reels available over there.

Daiwa has a US model Fuego 2500 with a 5.3:1 that's under 100.00 and pretty easy to source. I've got one and it's pretty darn close to my Vanfords.

[MN Fisher]

6 minutes ago, The Bassman said:

Daiwa has a US model Fuego 2500 with a 5.3:1 that's under 100.00 and pretty easy to source.

Problem with USDM Daiwas - they seem to think that the users here all want deep spools...

[JustJames]

1 hour ago, The Bassman said:

Daiwa has a US model Fuego 2500 with a 5.3:1 that's under 100.00 and pretty easy to source. I've got one and it's pretty darn close to my Vanfords.

Coming from you, who always use Ci4+ and Vanford I believe it. I’m gonna get one just from this comment.

 

 

 

 

oh wait. 
I already have one ????

 

1 hour ago, MN Fisher said:

Problem with USDM Daiwas - they seem to think that the users here all want deep spools...

Backing all the way. Spinning reel, backing with mono will not affect the performance. I only use super line with spinning so even JDM shallow spool I still need some backing.

[MN Fisher]

Just now, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

Backing all the way. Spinning reel, backing with mono will not affect the performance. I only use super line with spinning so even JDM shallow spool I still need some backing.

Ya - I use cheap backing even when I'm going to put mono on a reel.

 

BUT

 

Smaller spool = less backing, less expense, less time.

And I can get the JDM smaller spools for less than the USDM deep spools.

 

Win-Win.

[JustJames]

4 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Ya - I use cheap backing even when I'm going to put mono on a reel.

 

BUT

 

Smaller spool = less backing, less expense, less time.

And I can get the JDM smaller spools for less than the USDM deep spools.

 

Win-Win.

You only backing once, these new reels have grooves on spool to show if you want medium, shallow or super shallow line capacity. When you say “smaller” I assume “shallow”? Shallow spool is not for everyone especially for those using mono line (even 4lb mono). It is best to have some alternative instead with one type line.

I’m not arguing JDM is cheaper and in a lot of cases better, but it is not for everyone.

[MN Fisher]

1 minute ago, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

Shallow spool is not for everyone especially for those using mono line (even 4lb mono). It is best to have some alternative instead with one type line.

I'm not talking shallow spools - I'm talking standard spools...you know, 150yds of 6# instead of 240yds of 6# on a 2500 reel. That means only 70-80yds of backing instead of 140-150yds...also means only one large spool of backing line instead of having to get two large spools cause one wasn't quite enough.

 

 

[JustJames]

44 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

I'm not talking shallow spools - I'm talking standard spools...you know, 150yds of 6# instead of 240yds of 6# on a 2500 reel. That means only 70-80yds of backing instead of 140-150yds...also means only one large spool of backing line instead of having to get two large spools cause one wasn't quite enough.

 

 

Who use filler spool as backing? Big game 10lb over 1000 yards for 9 bucks, if you have to buy backing line. You can use used line with multiple connections as well if you wanna go cheap. 
Im not trying to argue with you, just saying size of spool again not “smaller but deeper or shallower arbor” is not only factor to go JDM. Shimano always available in standard size spool. 

There are many JDM reels that you may know or not know the detail, especially Daiwa have tons of name for same reels selling in Europe, Japan and Asian. Just like that Caldia LT where ppl compare to ballistic LT. I’m not surprised if turn out new Procyon LT is actually the same reel as Caldia. Or another guy that always say Shimano 1000 in US is actually the same diameter spool as 2000 size in Japan (just name them differently). In fact they are different being 1000 is only 40mm while 2000 size 42mm. There are many info out there that need to be researched before buying JDM reels there for it is not for everyone.

why Daiwa only offer Deep spool in US while shallow spool in Japan and Standrad spool in Asian and Europ? I think Daiwa does some research of average user regarding to line type, size and need. just my .02.

 

Talking about your example of #6/240yds. That would be Japan spec of line. I bet is you use 6lb line that sell here (not JDM) you might get only 150 yds at first place.

[FrnkNsteen]

3 hours ago, The Baron said:

I like the higher speed for dropshooting.  The hooksets are just a sweep and quick line pickup helps with keeping tight on them in that critical first couple of seconds.  It's also handy when throwing something like a wacky senko into a specific strike zone - either to get an ignored bait in/back out quicker, or to help get a fish out from cover (like from under a dock) before they can get me wrapped up.

^^This^^ For me I use my two 6.2:1 Fuegos for wacky rig and weightless tube to skip under and around docks and trees. 

[WRB]

You all are clue less discussing 6.2:1 gear ratio 2500 size spinning reels that have IPT over 34” that equal casting reels with over 8:1 gears!

Tom

[MN Fisher]

2 hours ago, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

Who use filler spool as backing

Spinning reels I use Zebco Cajun for backing - 6# test, 1850yds for $6.49

 

2 hours ago, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

Talking about your example of #6/240yds. That would be Japan spec of line.

Well, that's what the USDM Fuego LT-2500 states for capacity on TW...and elsewhere...so I'm taking it as US spec line.

 

7 minutes ago, WRB said:

You all are clue less discussing 6.2:1 gear ratio 2500 size spinning reels that have IPT over 34” that equal casting reels with over 8:1 gears!

NOW you know why I don't like 6+ gear ratio spinning reels....I like 23-27IPT.

[J Francho]

I don't use a spinning reel for any moving baits, so the faster the better. My current reels take up around 35" per turn. I'd go to 40+ for a 2500 size reel if possible. 

[FrnkNsteen]

16 hours ago, WRB said:

You all are clue less discussing 6.2:1 gear ratio 2500 size spinning reels that have IPT over 34” that equal casting reels with over 8:1 gears!

Tom

With all due respect Tom... I don't get what you're saying and why you call us clueless.

 

For the techniques I use my 6.2 Fuegos, which is rated for 34" IPT, it works very well. I can skip a wacky rig back under a dock, tree or rock cropping,.. Give a few twitches with the rod, then quickly bring it back in and cast to the next spot.

 

For things like throwing a moving bait like grub on a jighead, inline spinner, etc, I tend to use my Pfleuger Presidents, which are 5.2 gear ratio and IPT of 20" in the small 6720 up to 28" in the 35 model. I typically use the 30 or 35 models, and feel a 25" - 28" IPT works pretty good for me on moving baits.

 

Not trying to argue, just trying to understand if you were saying people don't realize how fast a 6.2 spinning reel can be. Some of us do, and like it for certain applications.

 

 

[ChrisD46]

17 hours ago, WRB said:

You all are clue less discussing 6.2:1 gear ratio 2500 size spinning reels that have IPT over 34” that equal casting reels with over 8:1 gears!

Tom

In reality - the only consistent yardstick of measure is inches per turn as Tom has indicated .

[msgf91]

Usually I'm not a fan of the revo spinning reels but the new generation about to come out sounds interesting. The new rocket will come with a 7.6:1 ratio while the winch will be rated at 4.8:1. 

[Deleted account]

1 hour ago, FrnkNsteen said:

...and why you call us clueless.

I'm the kid in the classroom making eye contact with the teacher and waving a raised hand going "ooh, ooh"...

[FrnkNsteen]

21 minutes ago, Deleted account said:

I'm the kid in the classroom making eye contact with the teacher and waving a raised hand going "ooh, ooh"...

You mean like Horshack on Welcome Back Kotter?? ??

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

 

Some of you are wrongly fixated on the IPT.

Couple reasons to have a choice on gear ratio of a certain size spinning reel. If wanting faster retrieve no reason to get a 40 size reel with the added weight and larger size when if you had a choice of gear ratios for your 2500 reel that suits your rod balance and your hand size. Plus going smaller reel 1000 for less IPT can mean less drag power less weight throwing off balance and a reel that is shorter clacking your knuckles depending on hand size. So actually gear ratio choice at specific reel size isnt a clueless endeavor.

[islandbass]

On 9/30/2022 at 11:46 AM, WRB said:

You all are clue less discussing 6.2:1 gear ratio 2500 size spinning reels that have IPT over 34” that equal casting reels with over 8:1 gears!

Tom

Dang, WRB. You’d think they’d get it from your earlier post, ?.

 

I was going to mention this since no one seemed aware of the difference until I saw that you already did. ?