Unsecured guns

[clayton86]

I keep a LCP in my truck for when I don’t have my EDC on my hip. The LCP is a nice pocket carry piece. There’s times I gotta run into a store on way home from work and can’t open carry like I do for work so the vest and gun belt come off and my duty piece goes in the console vault and the lcp slips into my pocket. 
 

the console vault is great I’ve got the 4 digit lock for it and it bolts in the center console of my truck. 

[Deleted account]

22 hours ago, AlabamaSpothunter said:

More handguns are stolen from unlocked cars than any other source.

 

Yes, but the number is skewed by designed thefts...

[slonezp]

7 hours ago, clayton86 said:

I keep a LCP in my truck for when I don’t have my EDC on my hip. The LCP is a nice pocket carry piece. There’s times I gotta run into a store on way home from work and can’t open carry like I do for work so the vest and gun belt come off and my duty piece goes in the console vault and the lcp slips into my pocket. 
 

the console vault is great I’ve got the 4 digit lock for it and it bolts in the center console of my truck. 

I have a Vedders pocket holster for the LCP https://www.vedderholsters.com/pocket-locker-holster/ 

[clayton86]

3 hours ago, slonezp said:

I have a Vedders pocket holster for the LCP https://www.vedderholsters.com/pocket-locker-holster/ 

I just use the one it came with I rarely carry the lcp I just have it as an option. Was gonna try doing my qualification with it today but instructor just wanted to hurt up with range portion since we only had 12 shooters and the LCP isn’t a duty gun heck not even a acceptable caliber(.22) 

[Woody B]

23 hours ago, slonezp said:

Can you say vehicle gun safe?

 

I have 2 safes in my truck.  I won't say what exactly is in them.  I also have a fire extinguisher, and a "real" first aid kit in my truck.  (and boat)

[N Florida Mike]

On 9/23/2022 at 12:38 PM, Ski said:

Yeah, that’s bad here. People leave their vehicles unlocked a lot in this area .  I have lots of customers that go get their credit card or checkbook out of their car. I would assume most of them aren’t from here. Lots of drugs here and the addicts walk around at night trying car doors…

[scaleface]

I stuff a 22  beside the drivers seat    haphazardly covered with a rag . My wife doesnt even know its there . I keep another rag on the passengers seat . People just think I'm sloppy .

[schplurg]

Only an idiot leaves a gun in an unattended car, period. How do people think all these illegal guns get on the street? They are stolen from irresponsible gun owners, mainly from their homes and cars.

 

What a scared punch of pansies.

[NavyToad]

40 minutes ago, schplurg said:

 

 

What a scared punch of pansies.

Speak for yourself.

[slonezp]

1 hour ago, schplurg said:

Only an idiot leaves a gun in an unattended car, period. How do people think all these illegal guns get on the street? They are stolen from irresponsible gun owners, mainly from their homes and cars.

 

What a scared punch of pansies.

An unloaded, secured firearm is no more a means of self defense as a rock is. A loaded firearm in a safe is only as good as ones ability to get into the safe during a high stress situation. I'm not going to unload and secure my weapon in a safe, every time I leave the house. Ain't gonna happen. As far as a vehicle is concerned, in this day and age, in the area I live, the weapon is on my person when I leave the vehicle and, not because I'm in fear of someone breaking into and/or stealing my truck. I don't want to be the guy that goes into WallyWorld to buy a package of nightcrawlers and loses his life because someone else is having a bad day. 

[gim]

It’s one thing to leave it in the vehicle out of sight. It’s another to leave it sitting on the dash or front seat for all to see. Let’s use some common sense here.

 

When I haul a firearm in my truck, it’s in a case. Not only because it’s state law, but to ensure the rifle or shotgun doesn’t get damaged during transport.

[Jmilburn76]

I drive a soft top Wrangler that stays naked most of the year. I have an under-seat lock box that’s made for it and is bolted under the seat. The factory seat bolts are half regular bolts and half torx,it was not easy to install.

 

I leave my pistol in there often when I can’t carry. IMHO it would take quite a bit of effort and the correct tools to break into it. 

[slonezp]

On 10/25/2022 at 10:00 AM, Jmilburn76 said:

I drive a soft top Wrangler that stays naked most of the year. I have an under-seat lock box that’s made for it and is bolted under the seat. The factory seat bolts are half regular bolts and half torx,it was not easy to install.

 

I leave my pistol in there often when I can’t carry. IMHO it would take quite a bit of effort and the correct tools to break into it. 

Define "When you can't carry"

 

I live in IL and there are huge restrictions on where I can and cannot carry. I may or may not carry where I can or cannot legally carry, I'm not sure sometimes... Lot's of shades of grey. More grey when I'm with my grandson.

 

You'd better believe, if I'm with my grandson, I'm not going out without a fight. 

 

 

[Jmilburn76]

@slonezp federal buildings as an example like a court house with metal detectors. Also most places of work aren’t going to let you carry when you are on the clock.

 

Before my accident I worked at a massive warehouse that was very physically demanding. It got hot in the summer and would have been very difficult to carry without printing. I dont have any pocket guns.

[slonezp]

On 10/27/2022 at 6:53 AM, Jmilburn76 said:

@slonezp federal buildings as an example like a court house with metal detectors. Also most places of work aren’t going to let you carry when you are on the clock.

 

Before my accident I worked at a massive warehouse that was very physically demanding. It got hot in the summer and would have been very difficult to carry without printing. I dont have any pocket guns.

I have no intentions of carrying in a courthouse, or being in one. 

 

My place of employment does not allow me to carry. I specifically asked this question after I had to take required training on what to do in case of a robbery. The reason I was given, and I don't know how legit it is, nor does it matter, his wife is the HR dept. The owner of the company is afraid one of his employees will shoot him. Mind you, we had a company function in September where, I sat next to, and conversed with, both the company owner and his wife for hours. The .380 in my pocket never jumped out and shot either one of them, nor would it. The .380 has no feelings. It's inanimate. 

I also do not work anywhere near the owner. I'm in a different city. If I see him more than a couple times a year, that would be a lot. 

 

I think it's a liability issue for them. It's also a liability issue for them if I were to get injured or dead in a robbery.  I get it. Probably the lesser of 2 evils considering that I live in IL and our gun laws are friendly to no one. 

[gim]

On 10/28/2022 at 7:33 PM, slonezp said:

or being in one

Until you get called for jury duty.

[slonezp]

6 hours ago, gimruis said:

Until you get called for jury duty.

Been called 3 or 4 times. Never made it past the waiting room

[gim]

2 hours ago, slonezp said:

Been called 3 or 4 times. Never made it past the waiting room

Technically the waiting room is still part of the courthouse.  I assume you were not permitted to carry your weapon into the waiting room.

[slonezp]

5 minutes ago, gimruis said:

Technically the waiting room is still part of the courthouse.  I assume you were not permitted to carry your weapon into the waiting room.

Got my CCL 3 or 4 years ago. Haven't been called to jury duty since many years prior. We don't need to play specifics here. My families safety trumps everything. 

[deaknh03]

On 9/24/2022 at 7:45 AM, clayton86 said:

I keep a LCP in my truck for when I don’t have my EDC on my hip. The LCP is a nice pocket carry piece. There’s times I gotta run into a store on way home from work and can’t open carry like I do for work so the vest and gun belt come off and my duty piece goes in the console vault and the lcp slips into my pocket. 
 

the console vault is great I’ve got the 4 digit lock for it and it bolts in the center console of my truck. 

i carried my lcp in my pocket, but about a year ago got a decent owb holster for it, it stays right there whether im in a store, driving or working. Those little guns are perfect for concealment, and with some home defense loaded up, they take care of threats.

[Kirtley Howe]

I have not owed or carried a pistol since I left St. Pete FL back in the 70s. Back then I carried a 44 magnum. Only reason I had it was because I often had to make late night cash deposits for the company I worked for--ABC Liquors, which back then only took cash. Part of my job was, around Holidays (Christmas, New Yeas, Thanksgiving, 4th of July) to go around to all the local stores and pick up the days deposits and take them to the bank. I could easily be carrying $10,000 or more. I would park near the bank, get out with the deposit bag in one hand, and the gun in the other, held in plain sight. It was loaded, and the safety was off. I was never bothered, even when I was working in the Tampa area.

Now days, I only own 1 gun. A lever action .444 cal. saddle gun. It is kept loaded, and unsecured in my bedroom. We have no children at home. I don't advertise that I have the gun in the house, and visitors would never know it was there. The reason I keep it as I do, is that we live in a very rural area, and are somewhat secluded. If someone was to try to break in, or even if someone was prowling around outside, it would take the local law enforcement at least 20 min, and maybe up to 45 min. to get to us. Not much help if there was a "problem". I have taught my wife how to use the gun, and how to take care of it. If there were kids in the house, things would be different. Right now, if someone comes to the house that has a child, the gun is unloaded, and secured with a trigger lock, and put in a gun safe-usually befor they get here, and until they leave. I am not careless or stupid.

[N Florida Mike]

On 10/24/2022 at 6:07 PM, schplurg said:

Only an idiot leaves a gun in an unattended car, period. How do people think all these illegal guns get on the street? They are stolen from irresponsible gun owners, mainly from their homes and cars.

 

What a scared punch of pansies.

I agree, except the pansie part. People have every right to carry in their vehicle. It’s just stupid to leave it in there…unless there’s a safe. 

As for me , I have my guns hid out around the house unloaded, but with the shells hidden nearby. I keep one loaded pistol well hidden.  No kids anymore so I don’t worry about that…

I don’t carry my pistol out every day because I drive a work vehicle and they don’t allow it.

I mostly just carry when I’m doing my part time security job.

[gim]

On 10/24/2022 at 5:07 PM, schplurg said:

They are stolen from irresponsible gun owners, mainly from their homes and cars.

That may be the true in some cases, but the majority of weapons are not acquired via this route.

 

Still a good idea to lock your vehicle and never leave a weapon sitting out in plain sight.  Common sense people.

[Deleted account]

22 minutes ago, gimruis said:

That may be the case in some cases, but the majority of weapons are not acquired via this route.

Yup, the vast majority of "illegal" weapons are sold by folks with FFLs gaming the system. 

[slonezp]

On 12/6/2022 at 9:16 AM, Deleted account said:

Yup, the vast majority of "illegal" weapons are sold by folks with FFLs gaming the system. 

The term "illegal" is based on one's definition of the 2nd Amendment and the definition of "Shall not be infringed"

 

Were I a betting man, I am confident the restrictions put on weapons in the state of IL where I reside, are 100% for revenue generation and nothing else. Law abiding citizens obey the rules and pay the fees associated, as unconstitutional as they may be.