Ultralight bass fishing

[MN Fisher]

7 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

Why not go all the way to 2000 size (same body as 1000)

Not my Avocets - the 1000, 2000 and 3000 (I have all three sizes) are different in the body as well as the spool.

[JustJames]

4 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Not my Avocets - the 1000, 2000 and 3000 (I have all three sizes) are different in the body as well as the spool.

All my Shimano and Daiwa 2000 size or what I should say 2000 compact, using same 1000 body. Also weight lighter than my Shimano 750, and balance better on UL rod. How much different between 750 vs C2000?, not quite much I would say and NOBODY KNOWS if you use UL class reel or Finesse Class reel.

[QED]

If ultimate casting distance isn't a priority concern, then 500 and 1000 size spinning reels offer very real weight advantages which are important to me.

[new2BC4bass]

When I was around 15-16 I went from 8# XL to 4# XL.   I wasn't a 'bass fisherman'.  I was a 'fisherman'.  It was great if I caught a bass (largemouth or smallmouth), but I was just as happy to be catching bluegills, crappies, perch, pickerel, bullheads, etc.  I never stopped to consider if this was UL fishing.  It was just fishing with a lighter line to me.  Tried 2#, but it was too fine for me.

 

I have one casting rod that probably could be classified as UL by some of you.  It's an Ace Hawk Double.  UL tip is rated for .018-.14 oz. (.5-4g) and the L tip is rated for .07-.21 (2-6g).

[JustJames]

And if 1000 and 2000 size reel are the same but 2mm bigger spool, isn’t that consider more advantage? And I know not all have the same reels.
My point is to use whatever feel right and give you the most enjoyable. If you a class act (I mean into the class and category) then use whatever considered UL, rod reel line. If you know how to adapt for the most advantage even though you will not considered into the class by all mean go for it. 

[PressuredFishing]

1 hour ago, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

Why do we use light line with UL lure? Some of the fish are line shy, light line cast light lure better.

yes

 

1 hour ago, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

Smaller spinning reel can’t handle too big of line.

if you are using a small spinning reel, yes

 

1 hour ago, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

smaller than .13mm or less than 4lb.

Now who set the line class?

nobody, but you answered your question above. thats why I said "generally"

 

1 hour ago, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

Why UL class reel have to be 500 or 750? Is 1000 class considered as UL reel? Why not go all the way to 2000 size (same body as 1000) to be able to use bigger line than 750 reel?

you are already seeing this out of japan, Im sure you have too because you seem to have alot of jdm toys. I dont use 500 or even 1000 size reels often for ultralight fishing with the exception being that smaller reels always handle the lightest line best because the tolerances between the roller bearing and frame is too big on larger spinning reels and line will get stuck between, and get freighed or cut. With that said I fish a few 2000S model because bigger spools have line management advantages, thats why bass pro anglers are starting to use 3000 and 3500 spinning reels for heavier line. The more expensive reels have better line bearing tolerances, expecially models from japan, if your getting a pfluger president there is too much gap. Although you are not fishing light enough line for it to make a difference.

 

1 hour ago, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

Why 0.13 line is UL, which line do you use? Why 4lb for dropshot, bass is line shy?

many lines, Diawas JDM lines, Sunlines JDM lines, Jackalls jdm line, varivas JDM lines, and many more. I use, .13mm is true 3.9lb, so its really 4lb with the stretch of the line over a distance, but marketing in the U.S for lines is bass oriented and they advertise stronger than it is and they dont use a universial rating system like the japanese (GOU). Bass are not line shy but the benefits are as mentioned above, the smaller diameter line handles better on the reel and casts farther, so if in open water why not use it. The thinner diameter also lets the light small DS worms flex more and move more freely without having as much memory as thicker diameter lines.

 

 

P.S rods in the U.S are super stiff and thick diameter compared to their japanese counterparts, they are the kings of ultralight and make small diameter tipped rods that fling 1< well

[JustJames]

@PressuredFishingwow I have just a short question but you give me the whole lecture, good for you.

Look at all the line you use, this is from a guy used to complain about expensive gears. You are becoming something else.   
We are talking about bass here and we know bass is not line shy so smaller line not necessarily better.

4lb vs 6 or even 8lb on the right gear will cast as far. I don’t see benefits of using 4lb to get all the distance and then don’t have enough power to set hook in fish mouth. Using light line for dropshot is all about let the lure fall naturally, 4 lb line with dropshot weight down in the rock, can’t imagine how much money I have to spend for weight.

Jdm toys yes I do but not because of the hype or to be in fashion. I got JDM gears mostly because the one I want is not available here. Even my Daiwa Exceler come from oversea why, I want 2000 size with slower gear ratio. This is suit the way I fish the best and it is not available in the US. I do study and research before buying gears not just because it cheap or cool to own JDM. Btw I paid more on JDM Vanford 2000s again because of the spec that only available overseas. Now I only talked about the gears I own, line or rod I use not he says she says.

 

 

 

[CrashVector]

All of my ultralights are size 500 reels.  Next size up I have a medium light with a 1000 size.

 

All of my finesse bass spinning setups are size 3000's.

[Fishing_Rod]

Good Day All,

Ultra-lite angling is my primary method here in SE Arizona. Usually it is a 4.5 - 5 foot ultra-lite action pole. Four pound mono line, usually the low cost Zebco bulk spool on a 500 series Shimano reel. The low overall weight and balance allow for comfortable accurate casting all day long. Most of the time I'm tossing a 1.5 - 2 inch curly tailed grub on 1/32 oz jigs. It works well for multi-species catching.

 

This past weekend out at Parker Canyon Lake the monsoon rains have brought the lake to full pool. The fish were all over the newly flooded areas so being out on the yak and casting to structures produced a lot of action. Occasionally you do significantly larger fish. All are fun on ultra-lite gear but some are exceptionally fun!

 

 

 

Pretty happy to be on-line with that type of content. Yay!

[PressuredFishing]

15 hours ago, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

Look at all the line you use, this is from a guy used to complain about expensive gears. You are becoming something else

I'm sorry if you have a quam  with me, I truly wish we could be friends and not get into catfights , if you ever wishto get to know me better you can always private message me, we fish the same waters.  line i ordered from Japan was less than 6$ a spool due to the exchange rates and sales, shipping included, yes I don't like to spend lots of money on fishing, japanese equiptment is cheaper than U.S even compared to a black friday sale. The same line in the U.S runs 13-17 if they have it in usdm version

 

15 hours ago, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

4lb vs 6 or even 8lb on the right gear will cast as far

heavy lures on spinning generally this is true, but I was thinking light 1/16th hairjigs, and 1/8th oz dropshot setups

15 hours ago, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

Using light line for dropshot is all about let the lure fall naturally, 4 lb line with dropshot weight down in the rock

Of corse friend, but when it's on the bottom it allows the worm to move more freely.

[volzfan59]

Go for it @CrashVector! One of my most memorable smallmouth catches was on Center Hill Lake in middle TN using micro lite tackle. I still have the rod, reel, line and bait hanging on my shop wall in retirement.

I was using the old 48" Quantum Micro lite rod and reel, two pound test Stren line and a 1/16th ounce Rooster Tail, black with a gold blade. Caught a smallmouth that was a little over 3.5 pounds. Remember it like it was yesterday.

[redmeansdistortion]

1 hour ago, volzfan59 said:

Go for it @CrashVector! One of my most memorable smallmouth catches was on Center Hill Lake in middle TN using micro lite tackle. I still have the rod, reel, line and bait hanging on my shop wall in retirement.

I was using the old 48" Quantum Micro lite rod and reel, two pound test Stren line and a 1/16th ounce Rooster Tail, black with a gold blade. Caught a smallmouth that was a little over 3.5 pounds. Remember it like it was yesterday.

Smallmouth on UL is a riot.  I hooked into a big one perch fishing Lake St Clair a couple of years back, he made a mad dash for the reeds.  Got him on a 1/16 darter head tipped with a 2" paddle tail.  I have no idea what he weighed, but he was 20" long.  Got it on 4lb mono and my Daiwa Millionaire CT.

[papajoe222]

On 9/20/2022 at 6:06 AM, Deleted account said:

I guess you could tee off with a wedge too...

Par 3 with a wedge and a putter