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19 hours ago, WRB said:

Releasing a bass can sometimes shut down a bite, about a 50-50 % imo.

 

 

Really makes me wonder how bass "see" fishing. I wouldn't be surprised if they haven't adapted to seeing bass pulled to the surface (maybe it looks like charging/hunting). 

 

A released bass, though, might show behaviors that they do really recognize and respond to, like stress, fleeing, injury, etc. 

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Fishing 6"-10" swimbaits a little bit this year, and it really helped how I see small fish. Mostly that if I'm catching small fish, I'm in the wrong spot, because the big bass will happily eat a small one. When they get big, IMO they get territorial and mean. Lure too big? Nah, if they can fit it in their mouth they will probably try at least once.

 

So little bass mean it is time to go. Might not be too far though, perhaps fish a little deeper, or better cover is nearby.

 

It's probably wrong but I've become convinced that big fish spend very little time shallow, just running up to eat a snack. With a couple of key exceptions. An example from midday this summer, pulled three good sized fish out of a mat that was the beginning of a point. Fish were only in 4 FOW, but they were a tail swish away from 20'. I think the oxygen was better there. Showed themselves on a frog, but I caught them punching.

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On 9/19/2022 at 7:32 PM, Woody B said:

The exception to "big bass school with big bass" is during the spawn.   Often the smaller "buck" bass is the one who guards the bed.   If you catch a buck during the spawn put it in your livewell (if it's legal) then catch the big one.  My biggest of the year so far (7 pounds 13 ounces) came from the same spot I had caught a 13 incher twice.  The 2nd time I caught the 13 incher I put him in my livewell.   Big Mama bit 2 casts later.   I released them both after that. Legal doesn't mean its the right thing to do, taking a guarding fish off of a bed can make a huge impact on the bass population in a body of water, especially if there is any amount of time at all where both fish have been relieved of duty. There are a ton of predators lurking around waiting for 5 seconds to swim through and gulp a mouthful of baby bass, it literally only takes seconds for hundreds of future 5 pounders to be eaten. (It edited the word sn a t ch??)

On 9/19/2022 at 8:16 AM, ol'crickety said:

About ten days ago, I hooked and lost three four-pound bass on consecutive casts, all from the same spot. I was fan casting and throwing my Whopper Plopper, which casts a long ways, but those three gals were all in the same vicinity.

 

What were you using for gear? Why do you think all 3 came unhooked?

@WRB Around here the next cast has about .001% chance of being a 10 pounder, but if your looking for a roommate and have room for me, my wife, my 3 year old, and 4 month old I would love to come fish with you :) 

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9 hours ago, PUTitinYOURmouthFISH said:

@WRB Around here the next cast has about .001% chance of being a 10 pounder, but if your looking for a roommate and have room for me, my wife, my 3 year old, and 4 month old I would love to come fish with you :) 

Maine State record LMB is 11 lbs 10 oz?

On 9/19/2022 at 5:04 PM, detroit1 said:

You aint catching no 10# in my state Tom...?

Michigan State record LMB is 11.94 lbs?

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@WRB Thanks for trying to make me feel better, but the ME record was set 54 years ago, MA record was set 47 years ago, and since then fishing has only gotten worse - I've seen a number of studies regarding the temperament of bass and their genetic predisposition for taking a lure, add the studies regarding how fish absolutely become lure shy from past experiences and then factor in over fishing/fishing during spawn and taking those aggressive fish off beds so the aggressive fish have less offspring and add poor fish handling to finish the equation and we end up in the situation we're in now. 

 

I mentioned in another post  I heard a guy who ran a tackle shop out of his house in NH say it took him over 60 years to catch a fish over 8 pounds - Since I already lost a fish over 8 pounds (10# state record 55 years ago) and I won't likely live another 60 years, and certainly not be fishing that long if I do, the chances of me catching a fish that size have dramatically decreased. 

 

I plan on getting more into swimbait fishing and trying to use some larger lures to entice the fat girls to bite, but then I'm absolutely hooking less fish and I don't have the time or bodies of water to play that game often unless I want to spend weeks on end using the handful of hours I get to fish just practicing casting heavy lures haha.

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16 hours ago, WRB said:

Maine State record LMB is 11 lbs 10 oz?

Michigan State record LMB is 11.94 lbs?

California record is 21 lbs 12 oz 

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So fixated on next cast could be 10 lbs, let’s try next cast could be your PB. 

Tom

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When do you move on?

 

IDK ?

 

I've literally sat on offshore structure for 4 or 5 hours without a bite & then proceed to put a 30# sack in the boat.

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“My uncle Les says, when the moneys gone it’s time to move on “ 

 

-Edward Norton aka worm in the movie Rounders 

 

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