terribletofu Posted September 4, 2022 Posted September 4, 2022 I just a lost a pb 4 or 5 feet from shore after my line broke. Was using yozuri hybrid 6 lb test. My line broke after the fish dived down. Is there anyway to estimate how big it could have been to have broken my line? Could a fish 5 lb or under break 6 lb line? 1 Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted September 4, 2022 Super User Posted September 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, terribletofu said: I just a lost a pb 4 or 5 feet from shore after my line broke. Was using yozuri hybrid 6 lb test. My line broke after the fish dived down. Is there anyway to estimate how big it could have been to have broken my line? Could a fish 5 lb or under break 6 lb line? Yes. 1 Quote
Super User Spankey Posted September 4, 2022 Super User Posted September 4, 2022 Might be something that you’ll just spin yourself into the ground over. May have been something as a little abrasion. POP! The fish is gone. Maybe a drag set issue. 3 Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted September 4, 2022 Super User Posted September 4, 2022 I'm thinking that you may have had an abrasion on your line. The reason I say that is because I've landed a couple 5+ lb'rs on 6 lb Yozuri and even spotted bay bass which fight much harder that LMB.. I would suggest that you check you line often, especially fishing from shore, where there may be stuff under water that you can't see. Also, did the line brake at the knot or up from the knot ? Maybe go up to the 8 lb line. I assume your using spinning gear ? Check you knots often too. 4 Quote
Super User LrgmouthShad Posted September 4, 2022 Super User Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, terribletofu said: I just a lost a pb 4 or 5 feet from shore after my line broke. Was using yozuri hybrid 6 lb test. My line broke after the fish dived down. Is there anyway to estimate how big it could have been to have broken my line? Could a fish 5 lb or under break 6 lb line? [Removed] Cuz I don’t know what I am talking about 2 Quote
Super User Spankey Posted September 4, 2022 Super User Posted September 4, 2022 I fish a lot of my soft plastics on 6# test (not Yozuri). Trilene and SunLine. To beat my PB for a lake Greenie will have to be 7 lbs. The fish is there. I’ve lost fish that I thought May have been a new PB. Line not breaking or something or anything I feel I did wrong. Just happens. Hate the feeling. Yes, I spin myself into the ground over it for a short bit. Reflect over the shoulda, woulda, coulda moment at the time. What can you do? Fish on. Go back after that fish. As Hammer said check your line often. Especially if you are a light line enthusiast. I fish a lot of 6 and 8 lb. test and am pretty anal about line replacement. Try to tie good knots also. Too many line wraps may be just as bad as not enough line wraps. Knot strength is important. A 2 pounder can break 6 lb. test. A 2 lb. Greenie is a nice fish. 2 Quote
Super User AlabamaSpothunter Posted September 4, 2022 Super User Posted September 4, 2022 When you break off on a fish, the vast majority of the time the knot, or a critical nick within the first 3 ft of line. That or the fish has you between an object. Depending on the oldness, or level of abrasion on the line, as mentioned above, a nasty 2lb Bass is gonna break off 6lb test especially. Outside of some really rare occasions, I won't use 6lb test for any Bass applications. 8lb test on spinning reels has always been my personal cutoff for Bass finesse setups, especially with the quality Fluro type lines these days. I can easily break 6lb test with just solid hand pressure. That's always been my "redneck test" since I was a kid lmao. My best fish this year came about two months ago.....right at 8lbs. Two nights later I break a really nice fish off in clear open water, get a quick glance at it enough to realize it was indeed gonna be a real high quality fish. After I finally stopped busting myself up over it for a few days about how that was for sure next DD fish you lost, I reminded myself of the advice I just gave you. The reality is that I was likely sloppy.....had caught at least half dozen Bass on that rig without cutting off a few feet and retying the rig. I knew better, and I likely cost myself, rather than my actual tackle. The best big Bass fisherman I've always known preach two things........knot quality/checking, and checking the first few feet of line after every fish, feel a single thing in those feet, off they go and you retie the bait 2 Quote
Super User islandbass Posted September 4, 2022 Super User Posted September 4, 2022 It’s yes and no. For example if your line had 0 abrasion and/or damage and you were in fairly open water AND your drag is properly set, then 99.9% no. Heck no. Imagine the same scenario above but have a poorly tied jointing knot OR having the drag set to max, then the combination of you and the bass pulling, then the line might very well break. Imagine the same scenario again but now your in heavy cover and the bass dives and stays in the cover. You start pulling hard trying to yank the fish out, the bass, the cover or you or the sum of all three might break the line. Those are the ropes. As a bass angler who has in the past been 90% finesse, I use 6# line a lot and as a consequence I am always mindful of that. It is usually better to have a stronger line for cover but if and when I decide to gamble, I know full well I could lose the battle if it occurs in cover and I have 6# test. With that said, I hardly ever lose a bass on 6# test from a break-off, but I know it can happen. Sometimes “waiting them out” might inadvertently “coax them to leave the cover”. Just be prepared to deal with removing a gut hooked bass by that time. ? 2 Quote
Cbump Posted September 4, 2022 Posted September 4, 2022 My guess is you just lost a 12lber. Good job. 3 Quote
garroyo130 Posted September 4, 2022 Posted September 4, 2022 Did you try to hand line that last piece or did the rod/drag just not do their job? Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted September 4, 2022 Super User Posted September 4, 2022 Learn at least one knot that you can tie flawlessly every time, even in the dark. Check the last 3' of line regularly for nicks and rough spots. Cut off any line with nicks and/or rough spots and retie your bait often. Set the drag loose enough so that it actually slips when a fish is on, and/or back reel when using spinning gear. 2 Quote
terribletofu Posted September 5, 2022 Author Posted September 5, 2022 Thanks for all the advice. The more i think of it, i think abrasion played a huge factor. The bass was caught up in something and i waited it out before reeling in. I ended up getting a PB today. Got a 22 inch bass, but my scale ended up not working so i have no idea what it weighed. 4 Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted September 5, 2022 Super User Posted September 5, 2022 Dead lift really has nothing to do with it. If you check YoZuri International website, they list the actual IGFA breaking load test for 6-lb YZ Hybrid at 11 lbs. Shock loading can be a factor, which multiplies stress in the line by 4x (the exact reason you set your drag at 1/4 of your weakest link). But I'm going with the abrasion guys on this one. Big fish on light tackle has always been my thing, such as 8-lb brute rainbow on 3-lb tippet - the risk here wasn't breaking tippet as much as tearing the tiny size 22 hook from his mouth - and goes back to a 6-1/2-lb largemouth I landed at 19yo on Daiwa Minicast. I'll also beat the guys to the lactic acid argument. The way you land huge fish on light tackle is don't announce yourself early. Apply enough pressure just to keep them under control and confused. Let them wind themselves a bit before you frighten them, and the final fight will be short. 2 Quote
Super User AlabamaSpothunter Posted September 5, 2022 Super User Posted September 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said: Dead lift really has nothing to do with it. If you check YoZuri International website, they list the actual IGFA breaking load test for 6-lb YZ Hybrid at 11 lbs. Shock loading can be a factor, which multiplies stress in the line by 4x (the exact reason you set your drag a 1/4 of your weakest link). But I'm going with the abrasion guys on this one. Big fish on light tackle has always been my thing, such as 8-lb brute rainbow on 3-lb tippet - the risk here wasn't breaking tippet as much as tearing the tiny size 22 hook from his mouth - and goes back to a 6-1/2-lb largemouth I landed at 19yo on Daiwa Minicast. I'll also beat the guys to the lactic acid argument. The way you land huge fish on light tackle is don't announce yourself early. Apply enough pressure just to keep them under control and confused. Let them wind themselves a bit before you frighten them, and the final fight will be short. I'm blessed in the fact I get to fish a lake that has a healthy population of 5lb+ fish, I'd guesstimate 8/10 of the fish I release need some time and coaxing before swimming off healthy. My guess is my climate and time of year/water temp might be playing into this. I say all this though because I catch these fish on stout Bass tackle, quick fights, fast releases......doesn't matter. Big fish always seem to need time after being caught. I wish this wasn't the case, makes me super nervous as a dead fish ruins any trip I'm on. 1 Quote
JackstrawIII Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 Lots of folks already hitting the big suspects (line abrasion and faulty knots), but I'll throw in my $.02. I'm not a pro fisherman by a longshot, but with that said, I haven't lost a fish due to line breakage in many, many years. I think part of the reason is that I fish a lot of lighter action rods than most people. I really like medium-light and medium spinning rods, and medium and medium heavy casting rods. I'm convinced that you don't need nearly as much hook setting power as most people think, and that using a lighter rod creates a wider "safety zone" against break-offs when fighting fish. Quote
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