N.Y. Yankee Posted September 1, 2022 Posted September 1, 2022 For those who use braid with a leader, do you use only fluoro leader, only nylon mono, or both? Why? Just curious Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 1, 2022 Super User Posted September 1, 2022 https://seaguar.com/freshwater/new-lines/gold-label 2 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted September 1, 2022 Super User Posted September 1, 2022 The few times I need a leader with braid I use a copoly like Suffix Advantage or Maxima. I use the leader to reduce visibility but most importantly to help with abrasion around rock bottoms. I quit using fluorocarbon because of its inherent weaknesses for knot tying. 2 Quote
Super User MickD Posted September 1, 2022 Super User Posted September 1, 2022 If I plan to use surface lures with a braid/leader system it is mono to avoid the sinking of the leader that occurs with FC. When the leader sinks it screws up the action of many surface lures. For anything other than surface I use both FC and mono, and I don't think it makes much difference if any. I don't sense that there is a knot problem with the leader grade FC that I use. Leader grade FC is stiffer than regular reel-fill FC which helps in keeping some lures from tangling. Like blades. 2 Quote
galyonj Posted September 1, 2022 Posted September 1, 2022 I'll use either one depending on what I'm doing and which spool I get my hands on first. IME it doesn't really matter much either way unless I'm fishing topwater...in which case I feel like using fluoro kind of defeats the purpose. 2 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted September 1, 2022 Super User Posted September 1, 2022 I carry short spools of mono, hybrid and FC for when I use leaders...tie on what I want depending on how/what I'm tossing 1 Quote
Functional Posted September 1, 2022 Posted September 1, 2022 I only use it on 2 rods, both spinning. Once dedicated to ned rigs and another for my light bottom contact stuff. 15lb braid to 6-10lb floro. Everything else is straight mono or floro. 1 Quote
Jmontgomery87 Posted September 1, 2022 Posted September 1, 2022 I use Trilene Big Game mono. It's cheap so I don't mind changing out leaders often and I also use it for backing. It gives me just a little bit of stretch too. 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 1, 2022 Super User Posted September 1, 2022 I don’t use braid with any leader. Tom 2 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted September 1, 2022 Super User Posted September 1, 2022 Over the years I haven't fished braid much. I typically only use it for topwater and thick vegetation. Depending on the situation, I might not use leader at all but when i did it was whatever I had left over from a filler spool. Then last year I started using braid on spinning gear again and realized that leader was almost a necessity to get the high pressured fish at lakes I go to, to bite. So I started using the various left overs I had from Big Game to Tatsu and again realized I needed something better. That's when I picked up Seaguar Gold Label. I have had the same leader tied on my main wacky rig set up since March. I caught 100s of fish and I have not retied or seen any fraying. As my numbers went up, I won't go back. I have very little confidence in fishing straight braid anymore. 1 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 1, 2022 Super User Posted September 1, 2022 Gold Label is THE BOMB! However, I retie before every trip. 2 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted September 1, 2022 Super User Posted September 1, 2022 Just now, roadwarrior said: However, I retie before every trip. Ditto - it's another knot, and knots weaken with age. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted September 1, 2022 Global Moderator Posted September 1, 2022 I use both, prefer flouro, but mono works fine if that's what I have. Quote
Super User Jar11591 Posted September 1, 2022 Super User Posted September 1, 2022 Most commonly I use a leader with braid for presentations like jigs or Texas rigs. I use 20lb Yo-Zuri HD Fluorocarbon Leader Material. Very strong, abrasion-resistant, and have never had a leader knot fail on me. Quote
Standard Posted September 1, 2022 Posted September 1, 2022 I've switched all my setups to a braid / flouro leader setup. Mostly Suffix 832 and Seaguar blue label. I carry 30, 20, and 15lb spools with me. Rarely re-tie, if I mess up the leader knot it usually lets go sooner rather than later. This is primarily river fishing. 30lb gets used when I don't want to lose a lure to the hammer handle pikes out there. 15lb on my spinning rod for plastics, a lot cheaper if it gets bit off ? Quote
Super User FishTank Posted September 1, 2022 Super User Posted September 1, 2022 1 hour ago, roadwarrior said: Gold Label is THE BOMB! However, I retie before every trip. I know I should but there is this thing in head that wants to see how far it will go. When it counts, I will retie the hook but the Albright knot to the braid is the one I really want to test. So far Gold Label for its intended purpose has blown me away. Also I hate tying on a new leader when I am out on the boat. Light braid and wind makes for a hard time of tying a good knot. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 1, 2022 Super User Posted September 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, FishTank said: Also I hate tying on a new leader when I am out on the boat. Light braid and wind makes for a hard time of tying a good knot. Tough on the water for me, too! That is one of the reasons I retie on terra firma before going out. 1 Quote
Cbump Posted September 1, 2022 Posted September 1, 2022 Spinning - braid to fluoro spook rod - braid to mono Other than that, I don’t fish leaders. Quote
blackrain Posted September 1, 2022 Posted September 1, 2022 I'm somewhat of the same mindset as Dwight in that I fish the Great Lakes so when tying on a leader to braid, I'll use copolymer (casting gear) for swimming grubs and swimbaits, mostly for some shock absorption and for keeping the bait off bottom. I'll tie on a fluoro leader for dropshotting and Ned rigging (spinning gear), for abrasion resistance and for keeping the weight/bait on bottom. Everything else is straight fluoro or copolymer, except pitching a T-rig in dense weeds with straight braid. Quote
Super User MickD Posted September 1, 2022 Super User Posted September 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, FishTank said: Albright knot to the braid is the one I really want to test. I had trouble with it unravelling. So went to Alberto which is simply an Albright that wraps both down and back, then out through the loop. I finish it with two tightly set half hitches. I think one of the secrets of success with both of these knots is to very tightly set both the tag and line, VERY tightly, and wet. I think you want the leader to take a permanent set from being so tightly set. 1 Quote
ska4fun Posted September 1, 2022 Posted September 1, 2022 6 hours ago, N.Y. Yankee said: For those who use braid with a leader, do you use only fluoro leader, only nylon mono, or both? Why? Just curious Flouro for cranks, minnow and jerkbaits, anything shallow/deep swimming. For topwater lures, nylon. Quote
Super User T-Billy Posted September 1, 2022 Super User Posted September 1, 2022 Mono, cuz flouro sucks. cheap mono > top of the line flouro. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted September 1, 2022 Global Moderator Posted September 1, 2022 No leaders… Ever Mike 1 Quote
Super User BrianMDTX Posted September 1, 2022 Super User Posted September 1, 2022 Mono or copolymer, but mostly mono. One thing I like is that the leader knot is pretty strong with mono, and running an 8’ leader, the mono never gets coiled as it isn’t getting spooled. Quote
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