ska4fun Posted September 1, 2022 Posted September 1, 2022 DC - worse than linear mag and centrifugal braking. But Shimano needed something to put against the versatile Daiwa Magforce. Just makes the reel and spool overall heavier. Yet I give some credit to it's most recent incarnations, since they are ''zero-adjustable''. Quote
Super User GetFishorDieTryin Posted September 1, 2022 Super User Posted September 1, 2022 While i dont think the DC is the end all of braking systems they definitely have their place. The biggest advantage is you dont have to change any settings if you change baits. I'll change the tension a little bit from really loose to where the play is almost non existent. They really shine casting baits with lots of drag in wind, like flat cranks or baits that tumble. They don't do as well with short range as the SVs or MGLs. I run mine loose like most of my other reels and the only time I've lashed it is hitting a tree or bush as I release the spool, but any reel will do that. If you want 1 outfit to do a whole lot of work a DC is a great choice. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted September 2, 2022 Super User Posted September 2, 2022 On 9/1/2022 at 5:23 AM, ska4fun said: DC - worse than linear mag and centrifugal braking. But Shimano needed something to put against the versatile Daiwa Magforce. Just makes the reel and spool overall heavier. Yet I give some credit to it's most recent incarnations, since they are ''zero-adjustable''. Not sure about that one. With the reels I own, I have all of the current available braking systems. The only thing better than the DC reels when casting a bait in to the wind is my thumb. Daiwa's Magforce system has been around for years and was not initially without its own problems. The DC reels were in Shimano development for many years prior to their release in 2003. Many of the original Calcutta DCs are still in use today without issue. What other reels braking systems have lasted almost 20 years without maintenance? I know DC reels aren't for everyone or for every situation but they are a proven system. The question for me is... Are they worth the extra cost over any other regular reel to use day in and day out? To me, not really but they do have their place whether it's for the inexperienced angler learning to use a baitcaster or for a guy like me that adds this reel to his arsenal to use under special circumstances. 2 Quote
ska4fun Posted September 2, 2022 Posted September 2, 2022 9 hours ago, FishTank said: Not sure about that one. With the reels I own, I have all of the current available braking systems. The only thing better than the DC reels when casting a bait in to the wind is my thumb. Daiwa's Magforce system has been around for years and was not initially without its own problems. The DC reels were in Shimano development for many years prior to their release in 2003. Many of the original Calcutta DCs are still in use today without issue. What other reels braking systems have lasted almost 20 years without maintenance? I know DC reels aren't for everyone or for every situation but they are a proven system. The question for me is... Are they worth the extra cost over any other regular reel to use day in and day out? To me, not really but they do have their place whether it's for the inexperienced angler learning to use a baitcaster or for a guy like me that adds this reel to his arsenal to use under special circumstances. Usage in windy conditions is a very subjective matter. A centrifugal brake system can be tightened to be used in more windy conditions. A system based on magnetic braking / counter-emf shoud be flexible, over lure weights, what DC system isn't in any way or form. DBS, Linear mag and centrifugal brakes still more eficient than any DC-based system. Daiwa Magforce showed evolution in every single incarnation. How much time took to DC become zero-adjustable? Quote
Super User FishTank Posted September 3, 2022 Super User Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, ska4fun said: Usage in windy conditions is a very subjective matter. A centrifugal brake system can be tightened to be used in more windy conditions. A system based on magnetic braking / counter-emf shoud be flexible, over lure weights, what DC system isn't in any way or form. DBS, Linear mag and centrifugal brakes still more eficient than any DC-based system. Daiwa Magforce showed evolution in every single incarnation. How much time took to DC become zero-adjustable? Going to keep this simple..... I disagree and I am out. This sums up my experience with the wind. Quote
Dan N Posted September 3, 2022 Author Posted September 3, 2022 To me , I do just fine with a standard bait cast reel in the 100$-150$ range. No need to spend more for me. But I learned at a young age how to use one. My thumb is well trained. I don’t ever even adjust brakes on a standard reel. just then tension knob slightly Quote
MontclairDave Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 On 8/31/2022 at 9:59 AM, Deephaven said: Casting distance is less than other reels. Safety = less distance though so no surprise. I bought one, I won't be buying another. Same here. Got it when I was a newbie to baistcasting and within a year I had enough of a trained thumb that I didn’t need the DC control anymore and now prefer my non-DC reels for longer casts. I way overestimated the learning curve but I guess for someone who is nervous about backlashes as a beginner it’s a good place to start. But you still gotta learn to thumb the reel even with a DC reel, particularly in very windy conditions, lighter lures etc. Otherwise you’re gonna backlash for sure. Quote
Super User Koz Posted September 3, 2022 Super User Posted September 3, 2022 I have a Curado DC and I love it. I like it more than my MGL or my K. I still thumb it out of force of habit, but I have great casting distance with it including lighter baits like beetlespins. Quote
ska4fun Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 6 hours ago, FishTank said: Going to keep this simple..... I disagree and I am out. This sums up my experience with the wind. I would love to see how the other reel was set-up, since it wouldn't be the first time I saw a reel being intentionally misconfigured, to show how ''good'' is the DC system. DC for light lures? The Cardiff 50s DC was took of market after a short time. Quote
FrnkNsteen Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 9 hours ago, FishTank said: Going to keep this simple..... I disagree and I am out. This sums up my experience with the wind. I don't really understand how an empty tungsten weight that has no wind resistance is representative of how good a reel casts into the wind,.... but ok. I don't question that the DC systems work well when making long full casts. I just don't think they necessarily are a lot of help for newer users making lighter shorter casts or inconsistent casts, because they seem to struggle with that. All I can say is my wife had a LOT less trouble with my '20 Daiwa Tat SV than she did with the DC. Anytime she had a lighter cast that wasn't as smooth on the DC, she got a backlash, but not on the SV. 1 Quote
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