Daiwa Tatula Glass Cranking/Chatterbait Rods

[Big_Easy_Bassin]

Hit a nearby pond to try my new Tatula 721MH glass rod. I’ve got it paired up with a Tatula CT 6.3:1 and 15#FC. Bought it to try as a chatterbait setup. Threw a few different models and sizes. Performed well with the 3/8oz and 1/2oz MiniMax, and felt great with a 3/8oz Jackhammer, but felt like it wasn’t quite enough with the 1/2oz Jackhammer and 1/2oz CrosseyeZ. I’d like to get another setup to throw 1/2oz and the occasional 5/8-3-4oz. Looking at the Tatula 741H glass spinnerbait/chatterbait rod and the Tatula Elite 741MH glass Brent Ehrler rod. I’ve had the Elite in my hands and it felt great, but I was hoping someone had experience with both of these rods to compare. I’ve seen some reviews that the Tat 741H was really stiff and not very sensitive, but I really like the 721MH so I wanted to get some opinions from you guys before I pulled the trigger. Thanks!!

[T-Billy]

The 7'4" Tatula has a great taper for 3/8 and 1/2 CB's, and is sensitive enough, but man it's a heavy rod. The weight is my only complaint with it. I just bought an Ark Invoker 7'4" composite H MF but haven't had a chance to fish it yet. I'll give it a workout wednsday night. The Ark has just a bit more power than the Tat, and a very similar taper, but it's lighter and better balanced.

[new2BC4bass]

5 hours ago, T-Billy said:

The 7'4" Tatula has a great taper for 3/8 and 1/2 CB's, and is sensitive enough, but man it's a heavy rod. The weight is my only complaint with it. I just bought an Ark Invoker 7'4" composite H MF but haven't had a chance to fish it yet. I'll give it a workout wednsday night. The Ark has just a bit more power than the Tat, and a very similar taper, but it's lighter and better balanced.

Looking forward to a review.

[Boomstick]

I have taken my 7'2" glass Tatula out as an all purpose moving bait rod, throwing 3/8oz chatterbaits, 3/8 or 1/2oz spinnerbaits and various crankbaits or jerkbaits. It is a bit light for single hook lures, but it's passable and if I have one rod to do the above it's passable. The older version was a bit stiffer (and more sensitive too) and was a pretty solid rod for a chatterbait or spinnerbait.

 

The 7'4" is what you want, either the Tatula or Tatula Elite version should do. The reviews that say they are not sensitive are technically not wrong - sensitivity is fairly muted on glass rods, but as long as you are throwing a moving bait they typically suffice.

[T-Billy]

Ark Invoker Pro 7'4" H MF Composite > Daiwa Tatula 741 Glass. 

I've got to fish the Invoker a couple nights now and couldn't be happier with it. Close to 3 dozen bass last night on a 3/8 chatterbait and the hook and land percentage was fantastic. The invoker is a little more powerful, with a very similar taper as the Tat. Invoker is lighter, better balanced , and casts further. I like the full cork handle on the Tat better, but prefer the invoker aside from that.

[Kevhead19]

Might I offer a third option in the Daiwa family.

 

I've spent a lot of time with the Daiwa Rebellion glass rods this year. I have used both the 7'3 MH glass and the 7'4 H glass.

 

These rods do not get enough love in the discussions. They are very light in physical weight for glass but beatufiul tapers. I mainly use 17lb fluoro a 1/2 oz jackhammer and a 5/8oz big blade with a 4.5inch fluke style trailer. The 7'4 H handles them with ease and a breeze to cast all day. The 7'3 MH is faster and can do the 1/2oz just fine. Both of these rods are great for appropriate sized cranks. I liked them so much I added the 7ft Medium Glass into the arsenal.

 

My other glass rods (Evergreen Combat Sticks) are purpose built for jackhammers but physically hefty. I have 8ft rods which weigh less. They are powerful and handle heavy grass (For IL) well but man they tire you out. I imagine the Tatula 7'4H falls in that same camp.

[Jrob78]

20 hours ago, Kevhead19 said:

Might I offer a third option in the Daiwa family.

 

I've spent a lot of time with the Daiwa Rebellion glass rods this year. I have used both the 7'3 MH glass and the 7'4 H glass.

 

These rods do not get enough love in the discussions. They are very light in physical weight for glass but beatufiul tapers. I mainly use 17lb fluoro a 1/2 oz jackhammer and a 5/8oz big blade with a 4.5inch fluke style trailer. The 7'4 H handles them with ease and a breeze to cast all day. The 7'3 MH is faster and can do the 1/2oz just fine. Both of these rods are great for appropriate sized cranks. I liked them so much I added the 7ft Medium Glass into the arsenal.

 

My other glass rods (Evergreen Combat Sticks) are purpose built for jackhammers but physically hefty. I have 8ft rods which weigh less. They are powerful and handle heavy grass (For IL) well but man they tire you out. I imagine the Tatula 7'4H falls in that same camp.

I'm glad you posted this, I've been eyeing those rods for awhile and just never pulled the trigger. I assume the 7'4" H glass is the better chatterbait/spinnerbait rod over the 7'3" MH?

[Kevhead19]

17 minutes ago, Jrob78 said:

I'm glad you posted this, I've been eyeing those rods for awhile and just never pulled the trigger. I assume the 7'4" H glass is the better chatterbait/spinnerbait rod over the 7'3" MH?

From my experience it depends on the weight of the chatterbait you're using. I've not used a spinnerbait on it yet.

 

3/8oz size the MH all the way

3/8 and 1/2oz a complete toss up. 

1/2oz and above only H would be my choice.

 

The MH is rated a fast action glass and the H a regular action glass. I can tell the difference owning both but it's very, very subtle. Perhaps a half inch deeper in the blank bend on the regular under load.

 

Both double as 5xd (MH) and 6xd (H) size crank rods for me from the kayak. 

 

The handle length from trigger back is the same. It's shorter than other rods I own but plenty of length for casting. I can meaure exactly if that's vital to you.

 

These rods are as light in hand as my other graphite rods. 

 

I've caught an equal amount of fish on both. I tend to lean towards a heavier chatterbait so the 7'4 H gets more seat time.

 

 

[Jrob78]

17 minutes ago, Kevhead19 said:

From my experience it depends on the weight of the chatterbait you're using. I've not used a spinnerbait on it yet.

 

3/8oz size the MH all the way

3/8 and 1/2oz a complete toss up. 

1/2oz and above only H would be my choice.

 

The MH is rated a fast action glass and the H a regular action glass. I can tell the difference owning both but it's very, very subtle. Perhaps a half inch deeper in the blank bend on the regular under load.

 

Both double as 5xd (MH) and 6xd (H) size crank rods for me from the kayak. 

 

The handle length from trigger back is the same. It's shorter than other rods I own but plenty of length for casting. I can meaure exactly if that's vital to you.

 

These rods are as light in hand as my other graphite rods. 

 

I've caught an equal amount of fish on both. I tend to lean towards a heavier chatterbait so the 7'4 H gets more seat time.

 

 

Awesome, thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know. I'm going to order a 7'4" H.

[SKFishing]

On 9/2/2022 at 7:27 PM, Kevhead19 said:

From my experience it depends on the weight of the chatterbait you're using. I've not used a spinnerbait on it yet.

 

3/8oz size the MH all the way

3/8 and 1/2oz a complete toss up. 

1/2oz and above only H would be my choice.

 

The MH is rated a fast action glass and the H a regular action glass. I can tell the difference owning both but it's very, very subtle. Perhaps a half inch deeper in the blank bend on the regular under load.

 

Both double as 5xd (MH) and 6xd (H) size crank rods for me from the kayak. 

 

The handle length from trigger back is the same. It's shorter than other rods I own but plenty of length for casting. I can meaure exactly if that's vital to you.

 

These rods are as light in hand as my other graphite rods. 

 

I've caught an equal amount of fish on both. I tend to lean towards a heavier chatterbait so the 7'4 H gets more seat time.

 

 

I'm sorry to dig up an old thread, but you're the perfect person for my question. I love the Rebellion series and I'm looking at which glass rod to get for crankbaits. It's between the M and MH. What do you throw on the M that you wouldn't throw on the MH and vice versa? 

[SKFishing]

@Kevhead19

[MickD]

On 8/29/2022 at 8:37 AM, new2BC4bass said:

The weight is my only complaint with it.

What does it weigh?

[Kevhead19]

2 hours ago, SKFishing said:

I'm sorry to dig up an old thread, but you're the perfect person for my question. I love the Rebellion series and I'm looking at which glass rod to get for crankbaits. It's between the M and MH. What do you throw on the M that you wouldn't throw on the MH and vice versa? 

On the Medium glass I am using cranks such as 1.0/1.5 size squarebills, smaller sized 6 - 10ft diving cranks. Last year it was heavily used with the OSP Blitz DR. I believe that is 3/8oz and dives to 8 feet or so. I also used 1/4 - 3/8oz spinnerbaits without trailers. The Medium has a handle length anout a half an inch shorter than the Medium Heavy glass. That took a littler bit to get used to as it feels really short with my monkey arms.

 

On the Medium Heavy I use 3/8 - 1/2oz chatterbaits with lighter trailers ( small fluke sized things). I liked it with the Stealth Blade that has less thump. I also used it heavily with 5xd sized cranks. That slightly heavier 10-15ft range handles beatifuly on it.  I used this rod more as it was the first I bought and expanded to the Medium and the Heavy. 

 

The Heavy I use nearly exclusively with 1/2 -3/4oz chatterbaits with full sized trailers. I also used it for larger magnum squarebills (1oz size).

 

All of this is with 12 - 20lb Fluoro depending on rod from a kayak. 

 

If you're staying shallow, the Medium is awesome. If you're going deeper I would suggest the MH. The MH does better dropping down in weight/pull than the M does going up.

[new2BC4bass]

5 hours ago, MickD said:

What does it weigh?

Had to do some digging, but see you are quoting T-Billy, not me.  I quoted his post with this comment, "Looking forward to a review. "

[MickD]

Oops!.  Yes, it was TBilly.  Still would like to know what the rod which was felt to be too heavy actually weighed.  

[lynxcat]

I use the Tatula Elite 7’4 MH/Regular as my primary Chatterbait rod. It’s been fantastic over the last few years and I fish Jackhammers probably 60% of the time I am on the water. 
 

I recently got the Expride 7’6 MH/Moderate Fast and I am sorting out what exactly to throw on it. I think it excels with swimjigs and it’s worked well with Chatterbaits as well. The length allows me to really get some distance on casts. 

[lunkerboss923]

Firm believer in the Dobyns Champion 736CB Glass. The Evergreen Jackhammer Rod is pretty good too! 

[Jrob78]

I've been using the Daiwa Rebellion 7'4" H Glass as recommended by @Kevhead19 above in this thread. I bought it right after the above conversation, so I've had a couple of months with it and I can say without a doubt it's the best 1/2oz Chatterbait rod I've ever used. It's also really light for a glass rod, highly recommend it. 

[SKFishing]

On 11/19/2022 at 6:27 PM, Kevhead19 said:

On the Medium glass I am using cranks such as 1.0/1.5 size squarebills, smaller sized 6 - 10ft diving cranks. Last year it was heavily used with the OSP Blitz DR. I believe that is 3/8oz and dives to 8 feet or so. I also used 1/4 - 3/8oz spinnerbaits without trailers. The Medium has a handle length anout a half an inch shorter than the Medium Heavy glass. That took a littler bit to get used to as it feels really short with my monkey arms.

 

On the Medium Heavy I use 3/8 - 1/2oz chatterbaits with lighter trailers ( small fluke sized things). I liked it with the Stealth Blade that has less thump. I also used it heavily with 5xd sized cranks. That slightly heavier 10-15ft range handles beatifuly on it.  I used this rod more as it was the first I bought and expanded to the Medium and the Heavy. 

 

The Heavy I use nearly exclusively with 1/2 -3/4oz chatterbaits with full sized trailers. I also used it for larger magnum squarebills (1oz size).

 

All of this is with 12 - 20lb Fluoro depending on rod from a kayak. 

 

If you're staying shallow, the Medium is awesome. If you're going deeper I would suggest the MH. The MH does better dropping down in weight/pull than the M does going up.

@Kevhead19 Big thank you for the detailed info on all three rods, that's exactly what I was looking for. I was torn between the M and MH but your last sentence got me into the MH. It sounds like it can work for 1.5 squarebills and DT6's or OSP Blitz DR in a pinch. I've also never used glass for chatterbaits but I'm excited to try to fish them the right way now.

[Kevhead19]

1 hour ago, SKFishing said:

@Kevhead19 Big thank you for the detailed info on all three rods, that's exactly what I was looking for. I was torn between the M and MH but your last sentence got me into the MH. It sounds like it can work for 1.5 squarebills and DT6's or OSP Blitz DR in a pinch. I've also never used glass for chatterbaits but I'm excited to try to fish them the right way now.

@SKFishing You're welcome! I hope you have the same enjoyable experience with it as I have. The value proposition for the Rebellion line is great and it is even more of a deal with all the sales going on now.

[bx.versatile]

@SKFishing

 

Let me help you pull the trigger. ThroneBros has the MH Rebellion for $100 shipped right now. Already picked up both graphite and glass models.

 

Doorbuster! Daiwa Rebellion - Casting (thornebros.com)

[Fishin Dad]

17 hours ago, Shismano said:

@SKFishing

 

Let me help you pull the trigger. ThroneBros has the MH Rebellion for $100 shipped right now. Already picked up both graphite and glass models.

 

Doorbuster! Daiwa Rebellion - Casting (thornebros.com)

Thanks Bud!   For that price, I had to try one.  Appreciate the heads up.  

[SKFishing]

On 11/26/2022 at 11:16 PM, Shismano said:

@SKFishing

 

Let me help you pull the trigger. ThroneBros has the MH Rebellion for $100 shipped right now. Already picked up both graphite and glass models.

 

Doorbuster! Daiwa Rebellion - Casting (thornebros.com)

@Shismano I was way ahead of you and bought it from them before I saw your post here, haha. I hope they ship it in the next couple days, I can't wait to try it out. The Rebellion series is worth more than $200, getting it for $100 is robbery. If you bought the 7'3 MH casting rod, you won't be disappointed.

[Fishin Dad]

On 11/30/2022 at 12:57 AM, SKFishing said:

@Shismano I was way ahead of you and bought it from them before I saw your post here, haha. I hope they ship it in the next couple days, I can't wait to try it out. The Rebellion series is worth more than $200, getting it for $100 is robbery. If you bought the 7'3 MH casting rod, you won't be 

 

On 11/26/2022 at 10:16 PM, Shismano said:

@SKFishing

 

Let me help you pull the trigger. ThroneBros has the MH Rebellion for $100 shipped right now. Already picked up both graphite and glass models.

 

Doorbuster! Daiwa Rebellion - Casting (thornebros.com)

Unfortunately, they cancelled my order yesterday.   Disappointed, but it happens.  

[bx.versatile]

2 hours ago, Fishin Dad said:

 

Unfortunately, they cancelled my order yesterday.   Disappointed, but it happens.  

 

Mine is stuck on shipped status with no shipping info. What was your status before it was cancelled?