vaparrothead Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 Your fishing a spot and not getting any bites so you move to a new location maybe not far; while moving you change the color of the bait your using (say plastic worm). New spot and now your getting bites, is that because you moved or because you changed color of your bait? Think it's an interesting question Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted August 25, 2022 Super User Posted August 25, 2022 Could be either but likely its the location. You would need to stay in the first spot & change colors to see if color maters. 7 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted August 25, 2022 Super User Posted August 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, vaparrothead said: Your fishing a spot and not getting any bites so you move to a new location maybe not far; while moving you change the color of the bait your using (say plastic worm). New spot and now your getting bites, is that because you moved or because you changed color of your bait? Think it's an interesting question Perfect example why one shouldn't change multiple variables. Now one will just confirmation bias make up a fairy tale as to what caused the bites. 3 Quote
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted August 25, 2022 Super User Posted August 25, 2022 It’s probably the new location but I would buy a couple of more packs of worms in the new color just in case. ? 2 6 Quote
Super User Mobasser Posted August 25, 2022 Super User Posted August 25, 2022 I'll say location. 2 Quote
Super User T-Billy Posted August 25, 2022 Super User Posted August 25, 2022 I only fish black or junebug worms so in my case it would definitely be location. 4 Quote
Super User Spankey Posted August 25, 2022 Super User Posted August 25, 2022 When you were at the initial spot did you change any colors there? Did you change up bait styles there? I assume not. Fish were probably there. The color bait you were throwing they most likely were not interested in. Your second spot you chose a color they reacted to. So I’d say color as long as I felt there were fish on the first spot and only going at them with a single bait you chose and they were not interested in. Quote
GRiver Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 I usually change to all the colors I think that might work before moving. So for me it would location, now with that being said. If I do try a new color and start catching a lot, I’d probably go back and fish that area again. 1 Quote
Super User AlabamaSpothunter Posted August 25, 2022 Super User Posted August 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, T-Billy said: I only fish black or junebug worms so in my case it would definitely be location. Those are easily two of my favorites, but have tried stuff in Black Grape.....it's like a perfect combo of the two minus the usual flakes in Junebug offerings 2 Quote
Super User king fisher Posted August 25, 2022 Super User Posted August 25, 2022 Neither, it was the moon phase. 1 5 Quote
avidone1 Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 The fact is you will never know for sure If you had tried the new color in the first spot and got bit then you would know but once you left there is no way of knowing A few fish could have migrated in after you left and might have bit either color or both Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted August 27, 2022 Global Moderator Posted August 27, 2022 Doesn't matter how many times you change colors at a bad location, if there's no fish the bait won't make a difference. Put the wrong bait in a location with a lot of fish and there's still a good chance one might eat it. 7 Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted August 27, 2022 Super User Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/25/2022 at 5:18 PM, Deleted account said: Perfect example why one shouldn't change multiple variables. Now one will just confirmation bias make up a fairy tale as to what caused the bites. Agreed...no way to get to the bottom of it changing multiple variables simultaneously. Sure you could attribute the success to something.. But its just speculation. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted August 27, 2022 Super User Posted August 27, 2022 I would rather have the wrong lure/color in the right location than the right lure in the wrong location. Allen 4 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted August 27, 2022 Super User Posted August 27, 2022 Just like with property values in realty - "Location, Location, Location." 2 Quote
Super User Columbia Craw Posted August 27, 2022 Super User Posted August 27, 2022 You read my mind MN Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted August 27, 2022 Super User Posted August 27, 2022 Like wearing your best shirt to a bar where there were no women and not having any luck, then changing shirts and going to a different bar where there were a lot of women and you had good luck. Was it the shirt or location? 1 Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 The wrong bait in the right spot will catch fish, where the right bait in the wrong spot wont. Its location over color 9 of 10 times. Quote
Functional Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 If it was a drastic change like red to greenpumpkin or white to red I'd say possibly color. If you went from straight greenpumpkin to greenpumpkin with red flake I'd say definitely Location. If it was the drastic change in color I'd probably go back and fish that first spot after letting it rest a little. Quote
Super User GaryH Posted August 27, 2022 Super User Posted August 27, 2022 Simple the process of elimination. Throw everything you have and if no bites move. Then start the same process at a new location. Quote
Super User king fisher Posted August 27, 2022 Super User Posted August 27, 2022 2 hours ago, GaryH said: Throw everything you have and if no bites move. If I live to be 200 years old, I wont have enough time to throw everything I have. It might be beneficial for me to try a new location sooner than that. 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted August 27, 2022 Super User Posted August 27, 2022 In fisherman has a 3 step model that I find to be pretty helpful. First is know the intended fish species and their tendencies. Second is location based on #1 Third is presentation based on # 1 & 2 Color isn't even mentioned until you handle the other three. For me i don't change colors unless I am getting some type of action but the fish seem non-committal. Quote
padon Posted August 28, 2022 Posted August 28, 2022 On 8/26/2022 at 10:46 PM, Bluebasser86 said: Doesn't matter how many times you change colors at a bad location, if there's no fish the bait won't make a difference. Put the wrong bait in a location with a lot of fish and there's still a good chance one might eat it. my feeling exactly. you can fish the best bait in the world even live bait, if your not fishing it where the fish are your wasting your time. its like guys who use deer lure where theres not a deer within a half mile. if they dont kill a deer the scent doesnt work. location trumps all. Quote
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