Which Daiwa for chatterbaits?

[Cbump]

Had this Tatula SV Limited on my Chatterbait rod but thought It would be better served on senko/light t-rig rod so I swapped It out and changed line. 
 

 

So now I’m looking for a Chatterbait reel. Something in 6.3 gear ratio. Do I go CT and upgrade to Elite Long Cast spool and new bearings? Would I really benefit from the SV? Is there a JDM zillion model I should look at? Someone said they got a JDM Zillion G for $217 recently. I don’t know what the G is though. 
This will be on a Mojo Bass MHMF rod with 50lb braid. 
 

What say you? 

 

[JustJames]

Nope he did not get the G. Zillion G is USDM and price at 300 something. The different between both is G come with brass gear, Zillion JDM is aluminum gear made in Japan if that matter to you.

Amazon price is cheaper but you might have to pay tax and take at least 2 weeks to arrive. 
Also Amazon price is varied by model/ gear ratio might not be as cheap as you think.

I ordered HD 7 gear for 265 plus 20 tax since 20th and estimated to arrive Sep 8. 
The HD you just got might be good for chatterbait, why don’t you try it.

[waymont]

The currently available 2017 Tatula is an excellent chatterbait reel. You can usually get them for around $170

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4 hours ago, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

Nope he did not get the G. Zillion G is USDM and price at 300 something. The different between both is G come with brass gear, Zillion JDM is aluminum gear made in Japan if that matter to you.

Amazon price is cheaper but you might have to pay tax and take at least 2 weeks to arrive. 
Also Amazon price is varied by model/ gear ratio might not be as cheap as you think.

I ordered HD 7 gear for 265 plus 20 tax since 20th and estimated to arrive Sep 8. 
The HD you just got might be good for chatterbait, why don’t you try it.

Ok I got you. I knew that about aluminum vs brass when It comes to US vs JDM. Just didn’t know It was called a G. The person is on this forum and must be mistaken on which one he got.
I really like the HD and just spooled It up with 20lb sniper for my big plastics setup. Another HD is definitely an option, however, even at JDM pricing it’s a little higher price than I think I’m looking to spend at the moment.  
I sold a Revo for $150 last night in my attempt to consolidate to all Daiwa (hence why there was an open rod to put that limited in the picture above on). So I have $150 to spend and would be willing to go a little more. 

2 hours ago, waymont said:

The currently available 2017 Tatula is an excellent chatterbait reel. You can usually get them for around $170

Here’s what I’m looking at so far:

JDM 20 TATULA SV TW 103H $164

JDM 19 TATULA TW 100H $124

JDM 20 ZILLION SV TW 1000 $242

US Tatula CT $112 (would upgrade spool and bearings on this one)

US Tatula 200 $139

US Tatula 150 $139

US Tatula 100 $139

 
All models are 6.3:1 gear ratio. 

[Jrob78]

The Zillion SV is the only Zillion iteration that comes in slower gear ratios. The HD and Silver Wolf are 7:1 and 8:1 only.  I assume gear sets from the SV are a direct swap into the HD and SW but I'm not 100% sure. The Tackle Trap sells gear sets but that's another $65 added on to the price. 

 

From your Tatula list I've only used the JDM 20 SV, it's a great reel but it wouldn't be my first choice for a chatterbait reel. To me it doesn't feel super robust and is way better suited on more finesse/t-rig type applications. That's just my impression though.

 

The Tatula 150 or 200 seem like the most heavy duty options and best for pulling heavier moving baits and holding a lot of line. The 150 would probably be my choice from the Tatula line up for chatterbaits/spinnerbaits etc.

[Cbump]

I like the way you think. 

[Jrob78]

I'm looking to replace a couple of 6:1 reels and have been looking into this too. I love the HD and would love a slower gear ratio so I'm considering the gear swap option.

[Cbump]

From Daiwa:

 

The TATULA 150 T-WING Baitcasting Series is designed for specific bass fishing tasks like deep cranking, punching or flipping, pulling chatter baits or swimbaits, and frogging.

 

 

Sounds like the reel for me. 

[Tatulatard]

You can just buy a tatula elite for under $180 on that chinease amazon site.  Should run you close to what making a tatula ct elite long cast will run you an you get a more compact and better palming reel unless tatula cts are your thing. 

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Just now, Tatulatard said:

You can just buy a tatula elite for under $180 on that chinease amazon site.  Should run you close to what making a tatula ct elite long cast will run you an you get a more compact and better palming reel unless tatula cts are your thing. 

They are not my thing. Was just an option. I think I’m going with the 150. 

[Tatulatard]

5 hours ago, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

Nope he did not get the G. Zillion G is USDM and price at 300 something. The different between both is G come with brass gear, Zillion JDM is aluminum gear made in Japan if that matter to you.

Amazon price is cheaper but you might have to pay tax and take at least 2 weeks to arrive. 
Also Amazon price is varied by model/ gear ratio might not be as cheap as you think.

I ordered HD 7 gear for 265 plus 20 tax since 20th and estimated to arrive Sep 8. 
The HD you just got might be good for chatterbait, why don’t you try it.

Also this.  The HD sounds like it has a braking type that is a better fit that the elite long cast.  I like a stronger breaking reel for chatters and spinnerbaits.  That seems to be what everyone is describing with the jdm zillion hd.

2 minutes ago, Cbump said:

They are not my thing. Was just an option. I think I’m going with the 150. 

Also another good option.  It'll palm like a wide version of the tatula ct but they are really solid feeling reels that hold up well.  They have withstood the test of time.  I like mine.

[Cbump]

I have a 5.5 150 on a deep crank setup and really like It as well. 

[JustJames]

Chatterbait doesn’t not need a lot of power to reel, unlike big deep crank or big spinnerbait, my .02. I used to use Tatula ct type R as my chatterbait reel before switching to bantam 7.2.

Im not sure why some concern about gear ratio with chatterbait. I fish with 6.4 all the way to 8.1 and have no problem with it, unlike when I use 7.2 pulling big Colorado spinnerbait, I feel every inch of it. I still prefer brass gear for that hookset when you need it though.

Tatula CT TYPE R XS 8.1, 3/8oz chatterbait and 7lb brass.

 

Pushing the limit? 10lb Copolymer with tiny Chronarch 50e.

I think we are concerned too much of what reel best for each technique instead of having fun of what we have?

[casts_by_fly]

Just get the JDM zillion.  As fast as Digitaka and the shipping they use goes, its the one you can have in your hands first (mine took about 60 hours to receive).

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13 minutes ago, casts_by_fly said:

Just get the JDM zillion.  As fast as Digitaka and the shipping they use goes, its the one you can have in your hands first (mine took about 60 hours to receive).

Digitaka takes 6-7 days to get here. I’m in no hurry but I can have a 150 faster than that. 150 seems to be more robust, higher line capacity, and less expensive. I’m sold. 

[Junger]

Are you deadset on Daiwa? I have both Daiwas and Shimanos, and I use a Curado 150 MGL on my bladed jig rod. It casts a mile with little effort.

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14 minutes ago, Junger said:

Are you deadset on Daiwa? I have both Daiwas and Shimanos, and I use a Curado 150 MGL on my bladed jig rod. It casts a mile with little effort.

Yes definitely. I have 20 setups and only two are not Daiwa. 
1. Suped up Abu 5600 for swimbaits 

2. Lews Tournament Pro on a St Croix Bass X- a back up for heavy worm presentations. 
 

I will be selling the Lews before long to consolidate further to Daiwa. 

[Big Rick]

The one thing I would add to this is I like to skip my Jackhammers under trees limbs and docks and the SV spool makes this a very enjoyable technique. 

[ne_dan]

Tatula 150 it's pretty much perfect for chatterbaits and if you already can skip with no problems it's not going to present any problems.  

[newapti5]

Chatterbait is a high resistant bait that puts a lot of pressure on reel gear set, which would wear them out fast. So besides the HD reels discussed here, you may go with the other route: use some cheap reels for that task. 

 

I don't fish Chatterbait/bladed jigs much. When I do, I use a cheap old Exceler reel for it. It's geary as heck now, but it's still sturdy enough to get the job done. And it casts really well, being a downgraded version of Lexa.  

[Cbump]

Well I guess scrap everything I posted lmao. 
I showed up to sell the Revo to a guy for $150 and he had a like new Tatula SV TW 103H in 6.3 he offered so we traded straight up. 

I still want a 150 but we will see how this one works. 

[Big Rick]

33 minutes ago, Cbump said:

Well I guess scrap everything I posted lmao. 
I showed up to sell the Revo to a guy for $150 and he had a like new Tatula SV TW 103H in 6.3 he offered so we traded straight up. 

I still want a 150 but we will see how this one works. 

I think you'll be happy with it. My style of fishing doesn't involve much long bomb casts to nowhere, it's more directed to targets. Tatula SV reels serve me very well in that aspect. I keep things fairly loose and my brakes set about half way. When I see a skipping opportunity I'll jack the brakes up to 16 or so and skip away with no worries. As soon as that target passes I move them back to the original setting and keep fishing. I'm sure this isn't the "best" way but it sure works great for me. 

 

Love my SV reels...

[Cbump]

That sounds like me actually. More directed casting, 20 yards or so. I have bomb casted Chatterbaits before because I found them feeding up on a flat but that was dumb luck. So this was probably the right move. 
 

I noticed this one doesn’t have the zero adjust knob like the website shows so It must be an older model. I was told It was purchased about 4 months ago and barely used (I know the guy and trust him). So who knows ?‍♂️

[Bass Rutten]

The “zero adjust” is a cast control just like any other reel in the past quarter century, it’s not some special mechanism, it’s just marketing speak for setting it to where the spool has a tiny bit of side to side play.

[GetFishorDieTryin]

In my experience thise JDM reels have come with shorter handles and smaller grips.  I don't mind a shorter handle for crankbaits, but chatterbaits are another story.  The Zillion G is the Zillion SV that came out a while ago.  The JDM version has an AL main compared to the USDM's brass and i think the US version has an extra BB.  

Honestly I think most 150 size workhorse like SLX, Curado, Tatula work well given they have a lower gear ratio which is my preference.  As long as can make a far cast and have enough line on it so you have a decent IPT to get tension and set a hook at the end of the cast it should be fine.