Am I the only idiot that didn’t know this?

[Tatulatard]

It's like buying a vehicle and not knowing the number or cylinders or what wheels are driven.  I don't expect anyone to read instructions unless they genuinely can't figure it out how how to work the reel but you should know if your reel is centrifugal, magnetic or dual brake.  You should know this before you bought it.  Of all the information on the reel the braking system is most important.  

I just looked up this reel.  It has the abu swing arm brake.  These are always on and free to swing.  You can't lock them on or off unless they changed that? 

[Catt]

^^This^^ ?

 

The first thing I do is take the reel apart & make sure everything is properly lubricated. I may even clean it, degrease it, & relube it.

 

I do this regardless of whose name is on the side.

[Cbump]

31 minutes ago, Tatulatard said:

It's like buying a vehicle and not knowing the number or cylinders or what wheels are driven.  I don't expect anyone to read instructions unless they genuinely can't figure it out how how to work the reel but you should know if your reel is centrifugal, magnetic or dual brake.  You should know this before you bought it.  Of all the information on the reel the braking system is most important.  

I just looked up this reel.  It has the abu swing arm brake.  These are always on and free to swing.  You can't lock them on or off unless they changed that? 

I think what you meant to say is that YOU personally like to know what kind of brakes are on a reel before you buy It. I’ve never cared at all until this reel, and guess what…I figured It out. I guarantee you the overwhelming majority of regular ole fisherman don’t care about that sort of thing either. They buy a reel and fish. 
 

And those brakes were 100% locked in place on my reel. I had to physically pop them out for them to free swing. 

17 minutes ago, Catt said:

^^This^^ ?

 

The first thing I do is take the reel apart & make sure everything is properly lubricated. I may even clean it, degrease it, & relube it.

 

I do this regardless of whose name is on the side.

I’ve never done that. Does this make me a worse person than you? 

 

 

 

I think some of you need to understand that some people are mechanically minded. They understand machines, like to work on their own stuff be It vehicles, reels, etc., and like to take things apart and tinker. Others, like me, are not and are totally fine buying something and never worrying about the hows and whys of It. 
I just sent a bag of pieces of a reel to bulldog on this forum because once I took It apart, I was like what have I done, and couldn’t get It back together. 
 

That’s just the way some people are. On the flip side, I have my strengths that most of you don’t.  
 

Any way, that’s all I’ll say. Some of you have taken a joke post and turned In to telling me how I should act with my own stuff that I paid my money for. 

[MiceNReets]

57 minutes ago, Tatulatard said:

It's like buying a vehicle and not knowing the number or cylinders or what wheels are driven.  I don't expect anyone to read instructions unless they genuinely can't figure it out how how to work the reel but you should know if your reel is centrifugal, magnetic or dual brake.  You should know this before you bought it.  Of all the information on the reel the braking system is most important.  

I just looked up this reel.  It has the abu swing arm brake.  These are always on and free to swing.  You can't lock them on or off unless they changed that? 

The brakes lock on that spool.   You can see the 2 top ones are locked in and one bottom.   The little lip at the end on the brake locks under the little lip on the spool.  

[casts_by_fly]

15 minutes ago, MiceNReets said:

The brakes lock on that spool.   You can see the 2 top ones are locked in and one bottom.   The little lip at the end on the brake locks under the little lip on the spool.  

 

In fact, it looks like four of them are locked in place but whoever did it for the picture doesn't fish with them.  They picked two next to each other to 'unlock' (the two nearest the viewer in the picture) and locked 4 next to each other.  That's a recipe for some unbalanced wobble on this reel. 

 

1 hour ago, Tatulatard said:

 

I just looked up this reel.  It has the abu swing arm brake.  These are always on and free to swing.  You can't lock them on or off unless they changed that? 

 

the original IVCB system (IVCB4) you cannot lock and unlock.  They are permanently 'on'.  The Ike, STX gen 4, and maybe one more have that system, but in the new Xenons they have reverted to the IVCB4 or the Infini brake for some reason.  

[Catt]

1 hour ago, Cbump said:

I’ve never done that. Does this make me a worse person than you? 

 

Nahh!

That's just me ?

[islandbass]

3 hours ago, A-Jay said:

Nope ~ I'm also that guy.

And I read the instructions on everything that comes with them.

Including my trucks.

Can you imagine, who does that ?

Me.

A-Jay

 

Ha! I too read the owners manual,lol. Like I said earlier, in my last post in this thread was one of the extremely rare times I didn’t read the instructions first. ?

[Tatulatard]

2 hours ago, Cbump said:

I think what you meant to say is that YOU personally like to know what kind of brakes are on a reel before you buy It. I’ve never cared at all until this reel, and guess what…I figured It out. I guarantee you the overwhelming majority of regular ole fisherman don’t care about that sort of thing either. They buy a reel and fish. 
 

And those brakes were 100% locked in place on my reel. I had to physically pop them out for them to free swing. 

I’ve never done that. Does this make me a worse person than you? 

 

 

 

I think some of you need to understand that some people are mechanically minded. They understand machines, like to work on their own stuff be It vehicles, reels, etc., and like to take things apart and tinker. Others, like me, are not and are totally fine buying something and never worrying about the hows and whys of It. 
I just sent a bag of pieces of a reel to bulldog on this forum because once I took It apart, I was like what have I done, and couldn’t get It back together. 
 

That’s just the way some people are. On the flip side, I have my strengths that most of you don’t.  
 

Any way, that’s all I’ll say. Some of you have taken a joke post and turned In to telling me how I should act with my own stuff that I paid my money for. 

So they did change the brake to allow then to be locked on or off.  If you don't chose a reel based on a preferred braking system then what do you look at when picking out a reel?  

[Cbump]

Forum reviews, gear ratio I want, line capacity for the technique I plan to use, and what looks good to me. Because life is too short to use ugly equipment. 

I have 10 friends I regularly fish buddy tournaments. I promise not one of them chooses a reel based on preferred braking system lol. 
It’s like on hunting forums. You always have the gear heads that act like you have to know ffp vs sfp, bullet velocity, spend hours calculating bullet drop on range, etc. when in reality, the vast majority of shooters buy a 30-06 or 270 and a regular 3-9 scope, sight It in 1” high at a hundred, and go hunt.  

[dodgeguy]

Braking system is probably the most important feature of a reel.

[Darth-Baiter]

18 hours ago, Cbump said:

I just like to own reels. Never been one to get deep into the mechanics of things. Reels or anything else. 

I'm with you bud.  I just get the reel and do a cast to suss it out. sometimes it bites me hard.  hahah.

[Cbump]

11 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

Braking system is probably the most important feature of a reel.

It’s a wonder how I’ve made It 25 years not caring. 

At the end of the day do they not all work once you figure them out? 

[dodgeguy]

1 hour ago, Cbump said:

It’s a wonder how I’ve made It 25 years not caring. 

At the end of the day do they not all work once you figure them out? 

Yes but like happened to you your lack of knowledge caused you months of grief you didn't need.Maybe you missed the trophy of your life picking out backlash.

[ironbjorn]

I definitely think you should know if your reel has internal brakes or not because that's really vital if you want it to function. I don't get fancy with it either OP, but there's a middle ground in which you should know how the reel sets up but where you also don't get caught up on the fancy manufacturer-speak.

[Cbump]

Well now I know. 

[ironbjorn]

Would you buy a car you have no idea how to put into drive? Would "I'm not a car guy" be an excuse for such a thing? Most people aren't "car guys (or gals)" but you still need to know how to operate it.

[Darth-Baiter]

you guys are piling on, huh?

[Big Rick]

6 hours ago, A-Jay said:

Including my trucks.

Can you imagine, who does that ?

Me.

Considering your latest truck purchase reading and understanding all the info available took a few days, I imagine. Heck, just the infotainment system alone with all the HVAC integrations takes a rocket surgeon to completely grasp all the options to get the most out of them. 

 

Well done. You should probably go back to the selling dealer and educate your sales person, as I'm sure their walk through presentation was lackluster at best....

5 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said:

you guys are piling on, huh?

Well, he IS on a bass fishing forum in the reel section, for crying out loud, stating he doesn't know his reel functions. Did you really expect everyone to gather around, hold hands, and sing Kumbaya to reaffirm his dereliction of duty to his fishing gear?? I think not!!

[Darth-Baiter]

6 minutes ago, Big Rick said:

Considering your latest truck purchase reading and understanding all the info available took a few days, I imagine. Heck, just the infotainment system alone with all the HVAC integrations takes a rocket surgeon to completely grasp all the options to get the most out of them. 

 

Well done. You should probably go back to the selling dealer and educate your sales person, as I'm sure their walk through presentation was lackluster at best....

Well, he IS on a bass fishing forum in the reel section, for crying out loud, stating he doesn't know his reel functions. Did you really expect everyone to gather around, hold hands, and sing Kumbaya to reaffirm his dereliction of duty to his fishing gear?? I think not!!

 

I was once studying for some college class while sitting at my parent restaurant.  a big body builder dude showed up and just ordered steamed broccoli and white rice.  I commented that was a super light meal.  he looked me up and down, and said sarcastically, "well some of us care what we look like".  I looked at him and then at my textbooks, and replied, "well, do you know what is the inverse of Sin(x)?"  he stood there looking lost..I said, "well, those aren't the only parts of the body that you need to exercise". his girlfriend GUFFAWED..  hahah.

 

we all come from different places.  me, I am a natural tinkerer but I just get the reels to work perfectly for me and dont sweat the minutia.  

[Big Rick]

12 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said:

I just get the reels to work perfectly for me and dont sweat the minutia.  

But, you gotta admit in order for the reels to work perfectly you gotta have a grasp on the functions, including all brake options..... That's the main point to this whole topic. Besides, my statement was made with tongue firmly in cheek. It's all in good fun. One can't put himself out there with a thread title like this without expecting some constructive criticism and ribbing. 

[Darth-Baiter]

1 minute ago, Big Rick said:

But, you gotta admit in order for the reels to work perfectly you gotta have a grasp on the functions, including all brake options..... That's the main point to this whole topic. Besides, my statement was made with tongue firmly in cheek. It's all in good fun. One can't put himself out there with a thread title like this without expecting some constructive criticism and ribbing. 

I know you were not being mean-spirited.  

 

my comment was similar in nature.  trying to be fun, but maybe failed(?).  

[Tatulatard]

35 minutes ago, ironbjorn said:

Would you buy a car you have no idea how to put into drive? Would "I'm not a car guy" be an excuse for such a thing? Most people aren't "car guys (or gals)" but you still need to know how to operate it.

He knows how to operate just fine.  Maybe it is more like not knowing your truck has 4wd until one day you discover it and have an ah ha moment. 

[Cbump]

41 minutes ago, ironbjorn said:

Would you buy a car you have no idea how to put into drive? Would "I'm not a car guy" be an excuse for such a thing? Most people aren't "car guys (or gals)" but you still need to know how to operate it.

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard. I didn’t say I don’t know how to press the button on the reel, which may be comparable. I know how to drive a car, but I don’t know how to tune It if it’s not driving right. Why is this a big problem for you?

[ironbjorn]

27 minutes ago, Cbump said:

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard. I didn’t say I don’t know how to press the button on the reel, which may be comparable. I know how to drive a car, but I don’t know how to tune It if it’s not driving right. Why is this a big problem for you?

It's not a big problem for me at all, and I wasn't coming from a mean spirited position. But since you went there I think I'm in good shape if someone who doesn't know what they bought thinks I'm the idiot.

[Cbump]

8 minutes ago, ironbjorn said:

It's not a big problem for me at all, and I wasn't coming from a mean spirited position. But since you went there I think I'm in good shape if someone who doesn't know what they bought thinks I'm the idiot.

I know what I bought. Revo Ike obviously lol