Carbon Fiber Reels & Reel Magic

[ghost]

Specifically carbon fiber baitcast reels. Using reel magic for mono, fluoro or copoly on a carbon fiber reel, will Reel Magic weaken, warp or somehow damage this kind of reel body?

[Deleted account]

No

[bulldog1935]

Looked up the SDS for Reel Magic

 

Isoparaffinic hydrocarbon carrier is alcohol, either iso-ethanol (denatured alcohol) or isopropranol.  The difference would be evaporation temperature and time (longer spreads the active ingredient farther).  The proprietary ingredient is probably a wax, which dissolves in the carrier, and forms a film on the line. The wax film is not going to hurt a composite reel frame. 

 

My thought is that if the carrier is a detriment, it would hurt the limited-cross-linked line before it would hurt the resin in a composite reel frame. 

The composite resin is going to be similar to epoxy, chemically cross-linked when it cures (even better cross-linked if they use a thermoset resin).

No solvent short of methylene chloride is going to dissolve it. 

Though if you left the frame soaking in a beaker of the carrier, it would soften over long time exposure. 

In normal use, the carrier is going to flash away, and leave the wax on the line. 

I wouldn't worry, even if you end up with wax on the reel frame. 

 

[Deleted account]

54 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

Looked up the SDS for Reel Magic

 

Isoparaffinic hydrocarbon carrier is alcohol, either iso-ethanol (denatured alcohol) or isopropranol.  The difference would be evaporation temperature and time (longer spreads the active ingredient farther).  The proprietary ingredient is probably a wax, which dissolves in the carrier, and forms a film on the line. The wax film is not going to hurt a composite reel frame. 

 

My thought is that if the carrier is a detriment, it would hurt the limited-cross-linked line before it would hurt the resin in a composite reel frame. 

The composite resin is going to be similar to epoxy, chemically cross-linked when it cures (even better cross-linked if they use a thermoset resin).

No solvent short of methylene chloride is going to dissolve it. 

Though if you left the frame soaking in a beaker of the carrier, it would soften over long time exposure. 

In normal use, the carrier is going to flash away, and leave the wax on the line. 

I wouldn't worry, even if you end up with wax on the reel frame. 

 

 

I am philosophically opposed to denaturing perfectly good alcohol...  

[WRB]

The problem with ReelMagic over the years has been it reacts with lubricants breaking them into thick gum consistency. 

To clean the lubricants can require more then alcohol, kyton based solvents like aceton can dramatically unzip polymer chains that are hygroscopic.

Recommend using KVD or TangleFree line conditioners in lieu of ReelMagic.

Tom

[ghost]

WRB, so KVD line conditioner is a different formula from Reel Magic? All this time I thought they were the same thing just name swapping.

[Columbia Craw]

7 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

Looked up the SDS for Reel Magic

 

Isoparaffinic hydrocarbon carrier is alcohol, either iso-ethanol (denatured alcohol) or isopropranol.  The difference would be evaporation temperature and time (longer spreads the active ingredient farther).  The proprietary ingredient is probably a wax, which dissolves in the carrier, and forms a film on the line. The wax film is not going to hurt a composite reel frame. 

 

My thought is that if the carrier is a detriment, it would hurt the limited-cross-linked line before it would hurt the resin in a composite reel frame. 

The composite resin is going to be similar to epoxy, chemically cross-linked when it cures (even better cross-linked if they use a thermoset resin).

No solvent short of methylene chloride is going to dissolve it. 

Though if you left the frame soaking in a beaker of the carrier, it would soften over long time exposure. 

In normal use, the carrier is going to flash away, and leave the wax on the line. 

I wouldn't worry, even if you end up with wax on the reel frame. 

 

Try to find that kind a of information on any other forum. 

[mrpao]

6 minutes ago, ghost said:

WRB, so KVD line conditioner is a different formula from Reel Magic? All this time I thought they were the same thing just name swapping.

They are different formulations.

KVD works much better on fluorocarbon than Reel magic.

Fished side by side, I can tell a big difference. 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

KVD l&l is a polymer based product that bonds to the line. Products like wd 40 and reel magic contain petroleum distillates that actually slightly degrade mono and fluoro softening them which makes them more manageable. KVD is better for the environment to boot.