Falcon lowriders

[SC53]

Has anyone tried the Lizard Dragger for Carolina rigs? I have the Head Turner and love it for frog fishing. 
Also, any feedback on the Amisted as a t rig worm and 1/4-1/2 oz jig rod?

[KP Duty]

If you have and like a rod from a line like the Lowrider...I think you can trust the other models to work for their intended purposes.  

[Cbump]

The amistad is what i use for pitching/punching with braid and frog fishing. Great powerful rod. I would not do 1/4 oz on It though. 
 

I have the head Turner and wouldn’t use It for frogs. Too short. It’s one of my finesse jig pitching and spinnerbait/swim jig rods.  
 

The lizard dragged is used for c-rig by a lot of people. But it’s rated too light and it’s too short for me. I throw 1oz on c-rig with an 8’ Dobyns. 

[casts_by_fly]

I have bucoo SR and experts (no lowriders), but I have the models you describe.  I have the head turner in both lines (called the pitchin stick in the bucoo).  The Dragger 1 in bucoo, the 'equivalent' in the expert called the buzzbait, amistad expert, and a couple others you didn't ask about.

 

I don't fish carolina rigs very much.  I've done it a couple times on the bucoo but that isn't a technique I know or use (though I should try harder).  I used that rod as my 1/2 oz chatterbait rod last year a lot.  Also same sized spinnerbaits and the occasional deep crank like a DT16/20.  I like the Bucoo action, so when I upgraded a bunch of rods to experts this year I picked up the 7' 6 power thinking it was equivalent.  It is not.  Mine is a previous generation when it was called 'buzzbait', while now it is called "table rock".  The bucoo is listed as Heavy/fast; the expert as Heavy/Moderate.  Both are on the lighter end of heavy but close enough.  I would call the bucoo Moderate fast and the expert moderate.  The expert flexes further down into the rod with lighter pressure.  I've listed the expert for sale here as it doesn't fill a hole for me.  Its a great rod, just not one for what I need.  The bucoo currently has 14 lb line and is a light texas rig rod for ~1/4 weights and medium worms.  The lowrider profiles more like the bucoo on paper, though I haven't fished it.

 

The amistad is a big pitching stick.  I start with 3/8 oz weights plus plastic or a 3/8 jig on it (with 50 lb braid).  I think a 1/4 oz jig would struggle unless you had a really big plastic on the back.  For a bigger jig its a great rod.  I use the head turner for up to 3/8 and amistad for 3/8 and up.  My head turner has 17 mono and that's a good medium pitching stick.  I'll fish up to a half ounce swim jig on it or a half ounce chatterbait and trailer (which is pushing the upper end a little on it).  I use the bucoo head turner (pitchin stick) with braid as a light frog rod or if I know I'm going to have the amistad set up for punching all day I'll fish the pitchin stick with a frog all day.  The amistad is a great frog rod for bomb casting, but I don't get the accuracy with it I want in a frog rod.

[NavyToad]

53 minutes ago, KP Duty said:

If you have and like a rod from a line like the Lowrider...I think you can trust the other models to work for their intended purposes.  

There’s your answer. Not all questions require considering XXX number of opinions and even an informed opinion is still just an opinion.

Or…. You can go down the bottomless rabbit hole.

 

[Cbump]

7 minutes ago, NavyToad said:

There’s your answer. Not all questions require considering XXX number of opinions and even an informed opinion is still just an opinion.

Or…. You can go down the bottomless rabbit hole.

 

Cancel all forums then. 

[SC53]

Thanks for the info cast by and cbump. 
Cb, I’m using the head Turner as my frog rod but mainly more open cover. I like the way I can work the frogs with the slightly shorter rod. But that just me. 
And I agree with your last comment too. WTH. 
 

Cast by, that’s what I needed to hear as well. 
The  amisted seemed like it might be too heavy for what I want. 

[casts_by_fly]

41 minutes ago, NavyToad said:

There’s your answer. Not all questions require considering XXX number of opinions and even an informed opinion is still just an opinion.

Or…. You can go down the bottomless rabbit hole.

 

 

Once you're calibrated to a lineup, yes that's definitely true.  It's why I've stuck with falcons- I liked the first couple and I know their actions and powers pretty well.  However, you still get surprises so its worth an ask.  The 'buzzbait' surprised me for sure.  To a lesser extent the Hudson special did too.  

2 minutes ago, SC53 said:

Thanks for the info cast by and cbump. 
Cb, I’m using the head Turner as my frog rod but mainly more open cover. I like the way I can work the frogs with the slightly shorter rod. But that just me. 
And I agree with your last comment too. WTH. 
 

Cast by, that’s what I needed to hear as well. 
The  amisted seemed like it might be too heavy for what I want. 

 

I think it probably is.  If you want more than the head turner but less than the amistad, the heavy cover jig is a possibility.  I've considered this rod for just that purpose- a longer pitching rod for texas rigs and jigs that is longer than the head turner but similar or just a bit more power.

[BrianMDTX]

I have an All-Round Fast as my primary T rig rod. It’s a great rod for Texas rigs. I don’t really use Carolina rigs often, but it’s done well with those, too. 

[GReb]

If you call Falcon they will be more than happy to answer questions and make recommendations. 
 

The lizard dragger will work fine for lighter Carolina rigs. I know a lot of guys prefer the dragger 2 in the Cara line for throwing around vegetation though. If you want a longer lizard dragger look at the 7’4 heavy cover jig.