Alberto Vs Uni to Uni for braid to flouro

[5/0]

On 8/3/2022 at 7:59 AM, Choporoz said:

I always called my knot a Crazy Alberto, but google isn't my friend and I now have no idea what's a modified albright, a modified Alberto, a special albright or ?????

   I put braid through leader loop, and do 7 turns down, 7 turns back and bring braid tag back through leader loop same way it went in.  I do increase to 10/10 turns when using Gliss, because it is so slick

That would be the Crazy Alberto, or at least what Salt Strong calls it. I tie mine just as you’ve explained. Never go more than seven wraps down and up. But I use Power Pro.

[Bird]

I've only ever used the Alberto knot so can't speak of the others........15# braid to 8# flouro.

Amazed that every break-off is at the hook so still have plenty of leader to retie.

[stratos4me]

The Alberto is GARBAGE! The Improved Alberto is MONEY! The difference is the ability to cut the fluorocarbon tag extremely close without the knot tending to unravel over time. Good luck!

I use 8 turns up 5 turns down and 3 times through the loop to finish.

[MontclairDave]

I’ve used both and can tie both well. I find the Alberto Knot to be a lot easier to tie than the uni-to-uni and I also think easier to learn. Not a huge difference in strength but the nod goes to Alberto knot, at least for me.  

Edited January 23, 2023 by MontclairDave
Old eyes

[MN Fisher]

Uni-Uni for me is just for backing to mainline.

Pre-rigging before a trip - it's the FG

Re-tying a leader on the water - Alberto

 

I don't have an issue with the Alberto - seems to hold good on 832 or Smackdown to InvizX or Siege.

[Maggiesmaster]

The Shin knot is similar to the Alberto; just make 9 loops instead of 7 forward-7 back.  It seems easier to tie (for me, at least!) and makes a bit smaller knot. I haven’t had one break or slip, so far.

[RyAxion]

The Alberto has survived some carps, so it's a win for me!

 

7 wraps back and forth are enough.

[Basswhippa]

5 hours ago, Maggiesmaster said:

The Shin knot is similar to the Alberto; just make 9 loops instead of 7 forward-7 back.  It seems easier to tie (for me, at least!) and makes a bit smaller knot. I haven’t had one break or slip, so far.

I do the same.  7 wraps snd done.  Iver hsnd knot on the braid tag.  I call it te half Alberto.   Never hss failed and often the Palomar fails first, on snags,  and it's a strong knot.   Glad to know the name. Shin.

[ska4fun]

Alberto has a lower caliber and improved resistance. 

[stratos4me]

8 hours ago, Basswhippa said:

I do the same.  7 wraps snd done.  Iver hsnd knot on the braid tag.  I call it te half Alberto.   Never hss failed and often the Palomar fails first, on snags,  and it's a strong knot.   Glad to know the name. Shin.

Go through the final loop 3 times instead of once and you won't need to knot the braid. You can cut the tag as close as you want and it won't fail because even if one loop slips it still has two to hold it.

[Obee]

Would have to go with Uni unless big difference in diameter and then I use the slim lady

[Basswhippa]

7 hours ago, stratos4me said:

Go through the final loop 3 times instead of once and you won't need to knot the braid. You can cut the tag as close as you want and it won't fail because even if one loop slips it still has two to hold it.

Thanks for the tip!

[FryDog62]

7 hours ago, stratos4me said:

Go through the final loop 3 times instead of once and you won't need to knot the braid. You can cut the tag as close as you want and it won't fail because even if one loop slips it still has two to hold it.

This is it. After tying the FG for 5 years I went back to this improved Alberto (3 times through final loop) and it is easier to tie than the FG, strong as or stronger than any knot out there and virtually impossible to screw up. This means a lot when you are out in a boat, wind, waves, etc… in a tournament, short on time and HAVE to get it right… never going back to the FG! 

[ska4fun]

On 8/4/2022 at 8:45 PM, 5/0 said:

That would be the Crazy Alberto, or at least what Salt Strong calls it. I tie mine just as you’ve explained. Never go more than seven wraps down and up. But I use Power Pro.

Modified Alberto is just the one where the braided line pass twice or more times, inside the monofilament eyelet. Under heavy jerking or slashing, the original Alberto can untie itself.

[waymont]

Alberto over the double uni

 

FG over all other leader connection knots.