engine wont turn over??

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I've been having this problem with this motor for a while. It was a friend of mine motor and when he had it ran. He sold the boat to my brother's family and they never bothered with it. Now I got it to use on mine. I replace the starter since it was shot and did the jumper cable test to starter. It engages and turns the motor over but does not run. When I put my key in ignition I get nothing.

So my question is there a way to get motor to run to see if runs or do I need the ignition key? If was a wiring problem to the motor would it still try and engage with jumpers to starter? To me it just seems to be ignition wiring problem?

[Bass_Fanatic]

check your battery

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battery is fine. Them motor is a Johnson as well I thought it might be the wiring plug since its different than the one on my original motor. But even so the motor plug still fits into my control box plug. Is there any fuses in the control box or will the ignition go bad if got wet? Cause it has been uncover for a while.

[fishfordollars]

Run a compression check before you spend a lot of money chasing parts. that should help you make a decision.

[Siebert Outdoors]

it could be alot of different things.

Like above poster said check pressure first.  If you have a bad cylinder the motor might be toast due to repair costs.

Check all connections and fuses, battery falls in that group but you said its good.

Then pull the plugs and see if your getting spark. If you are its a possible fuel delivery problem.

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it could be alot of different things.

Like above poster said check pressure first. If you have a bad cylinder the motor might be toast due to repair costs.

Check all connections and fuses, battery falls in that group but you said its good.

Then pull the plugs and see if your getting spark. If you are its a possible fuel delivery problem.

I would do the compression test if could get it to turn over. Just trying to do it. with battery good and all the wires connected, there's nothing from the ignition when turn the key. Is there a way to start motor without the key switch?

I'd look for fuses I just see nothing. Might be fusible links but see no breaks or burns either.

[fishfordollars]

Well you can pull the key assembly and basically hot wire it. Better yet, go get a starter button, hook it up and then you will know.

Question? Have you tried to turn the motor overby hand? you can pull the plugs and it should be fairly easly to turn it.

[Way2slow]

On the side of the motor, there is a big red connector. Pull it apart so the two ends are no longer connected. Look at the started solenoid, you have two big and two small terminals. One of the big terminals has a cable going to the starter, the other side has one going to the battery. Stick a screw driver or something across the battery side of the solenoid and the small terminal on the same side as the battery terminal. Now, if it does start, the only way you're going to be able to shut if back off is to start pulling plug wires or choke the carburators off.

Doing this disconnects and eleminates all electrical from the motor to the boat, which also disconnects the shut down wires.

If it's not spinning over doing this, you need the check the solenoid or cables from the battery for bad connections. If it spins and won't start, then you have other problems and not the key switch or anything outside the motor itself.

One thing for other reading this, this is only for a Johnson/Evinrude motor.  If you unplug the big connector (control cable) on Merc's and some other motors, they will not start.   The CDI OMC/BRP uses generates it's own voltage, and you have to ground out the ignition to shut them off, which is done through the key switch.  Merc's and some other motors require 12 Volts to ignition system to run.  Unplugging the control cable disconnects that 12V source.

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On the side of the motor, there is a big red connector. Pull it apart so the two ends are no longer connected. Look at the started solenoid, you have two big and two small terminals. One of the big terminals has a cable going to the starter, the other side has one going to the battery. Stick a screw driver or something across the battery side of the solenoid and the small terminal on the same side as the battery terminal. Now, if it does start, the only way you're going to be able to shut if back off is to start pulling plug wires or choke the carburators off.

Doing this disconnects and eleminates all electrical from the motor to the boat, which also disconnects the shut down wires.

If it's not spinning over doing this, you need the check the solenoid or cables from the battery for bad connections. If it spins and won't start, then you have other problems and not the key switch or anything outside the motor itself.

One thing for other reading this, this is only for a Johnson/Evinrude motor. If you unplug the big connector (control cable) on Merc's and some other motors, they will not start. The CDI OMC/BRP uses generates it's own voltage, and you have to ground out the ignition to shut them off, which is done through the key switch. Merc's and some other motors require 12 Volts to ignition system to run. Unplugging the control cable disconnects that 12V source.

If I read this right I will give this a shot. Thanks!!

[jb_adams]

Most issues are due to a bad starter solenoid.  I had this issue and found out I was not connecting the battery cables tight enough.  I always use a wrench now to make sure it is secure and will not become loose.  A loose connection will damage the solenoid.

If your battery is good, has full charge, check the solenoid next to the starter.  You can jump-start the starter by pulling the large power lead off the solenoid and touch the red positive lead to the positive lead on the starter.  It will spark a bit but will turn the motor over.  If this happens, it's probably the solenoid.

Another way to know is if you hear a clicking sound when turning the key but the motor will not turn over.  That means the solenoid is getting power but not transfering power to the starter.

Check with a volt meter if you have one.

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On the side of the motor, there is a big red connector. Pull it apart so the two ends are no longer connected. Look at the started solenoid, you have two big and two small terminals. One of the big terminals has a cable going to the starter, the other side has one going to the battery. Stick a screw driver or something across the battery side of the solenoid and the small terminal on the same side as the battery terminal. Now, if it does start, the only way you're going to be able to shut if back off is to start pulling plug wires or choke the carburators off.

Doing this disconnects and eleminates all electrical from the motor to the boat, which also disconnects the shut down wires.

If it's not spinning over doing this, you need the check the solenoid or cables from the battery for bad connections. If it spins and won't start, then you have other problems and not the key switch or anything outside the motor itself.

One thing for other reading this, this is only for a Johnson/Evinrude motor. If you unplug the big connector (control cable) on Merc's and some other motors, they will not start. The CDI OMC/BRP uses generates it's own voltage, and you have to ground out the ignition to shut them off, which is done through the key switch. Merc's and some other motors require 12 Volts to ignition system to run. Unplugging the control cable disconnects that 12V source.

I tried this. It seemed to work. I need to get my gas pump back from my brother and fresh gas. I really do think it would run then. I put a lil gas in carb and it tried to go just not enough to keep it running.